Prove to me how Islam is not the most violent religion

Oh your a Christian and have "christian" values that explains a lot. Always best to not argue on facts if you are a Christian and just keep to "faith".

 

You are asking people to prove a negative? Your time on this forum should have taught you that proving a negative isn't possible.

 

This thread is hilarious. The OP poster has been thoroughly owned!

BTW 3500 killed, tens of thousands injured in the religious conflict between Protestants and Catholics over the Northern Ireland conflict, and yes, it was a religious war.

 

The main difference in relation to blood letting is that Islam got power sooner. As soon as Christianity got power they were just as violent if not worse. The 1000 years of horror that proceeded Christianity getting power was at levels the world has never seen.

Jesus was a good fellow but as Ghandi said "I like your Christ - I just don't like your Christians" - your Christians are so unlike Christ.

So then .. whats the point of robbery when nothing is worth taking. Since Christians in general do not follow the teachings of Christ (in fact most don't even know what they are) what even is Christianity ?

This is not to try to put Islam in a good light - it is a horrible religion - the reasons it is horrible are exactly the same reasons Christianity is horrible. Would you like to know what those reasons are ?

 

Wars in Christian Europe don't mean they were Church sponsored and funded. Europe has always been a political hotbed which is what caused the wars. Germany wasn't bringing Christ to France or any other country.

 

Today Christian missionaries sometimes lose their lives trying to spread their word. Muslims (ISIS) do it a little more old fashioned.

 

Christians have been behind virtually every major war in the 20th and 21st centuries.

 

And one could argue that the Iran-Iraq war was engineered by Christians as well.

 

The German military consisted largely of Christians.

As did German society.

Boom.

 

If you are unwilling to look at the entire history of religion and how we got where we are today then why bother. Some of the answers to today's questions are in the past. This type of question would be like me asking if the Germans are not the most vile people on earth and saying you can only refer to German history form 1938-1944.

 

And yet the overwhelming majority of participants in those wars were Christians.

 

Your friend isn't very smart then.

 

So your Christian values informed your decision with regards to a simple bet?

Yet you want to argue that Christian values did not inform some of the largest wars ever fought by Christians?

That's quite the logical pretzel.

How do you plan on extricating yourself from it?

 

Darthcervantes: Devastating wars fought primarily by Christians don't count as Christian wars because... uh, well... I win!

 

The Papal Wars that the Popes lead in Italy and France were not "Church sponsored"?
Look up what title Nepoleon was given by the Church in his wars.
Take a look at the war Constantine launched to reunify the Roman Empire under the auspices of the church.
How many times has the term "Godless heathens" been used to slaughter a people. The South, Central and Northern american Indians were decimated by people trying to force them into the fold of the church.

This is just history. Not some condemnation of the church. Just what happened.

 

True. But, the overwhelming majority of wars motivated by economics, not religion. Religious tenet goes on hiatus when it comes time for wholesale slaughter of our fellow man.

 

seems they do like their homemade bombs and shooting up rock concerts.

 

Hopefully Islam will be defanged by secularism just like Christianity was, but that's not some kind of credit to Christianity, it is a credit to secularism.

 

So you want proof that Islam is not the world's most violent religion without invoking the Spanish Inquisition, Crusades etc.

Since I have no idea what you will accept as proof I am pretty restricted as to what I can offer except for having spent 10 - 11 months, by myself wandering around the Islamic Middle East and putting myself at the complete mercy of those whom you consider the most cruel people in the world.

I remember more than one friend saying: "Well, it's been nice knowing you." just before I left to hitch hike from London to Bagdad & around and about.

Not only did I survive the brief expedition but I experienced kindness, curiosity, generosity and a sort of protectiveness rarely seen anywhere. In fact, I don't recall a single hostile experience the whole time I was in the Islamic world even though I stood out as a very obvious blue eyed, red bearded Westerner.

My many Muslim hosts were very eager to introduce me to their friends & family, treat me to meals, shelter, and guided tours of archeological sites I didn't know existed etc.

What impressed me most was the desire by my Muslim hosts to hear about life in America as well as American movies, cars etc etc.

Unfortunately, the 2 questions I was asked most frequently were:
- "Why do Americans suddenly hate us?"
- "Why does America help Israel kill Palestinians and take their land?"

I tried to explain America's overwhelming pro Israel - anti Islamic MSM bias that has poisoned so many minds over the decades just as I tried to explain that AIPAC's stranglehold on US Government reflects neither genuine American sentiment nor America's best interests.
The Muslims with whom I spoke still couldn't understand how people as clever as Americans could be so easily duped nor can I.

Contrary to your belief that the Muslims are intrinsically violent people, I can only report that I saw no beatings, whippings, stonings, knife fights, spouse abuse etc the whole time I was there.

While you will probably not regard these experiences as "proof", they have convinced me that the Muslims are little different than most people in what they want out of life.

 

The Rwanda genocide. Churches handed over people seeking sanctuary to the mobs while mosques protected them.

Also in my country, on Christian holidays you sometimes see Muslims (with skull caps and goatees) standing outside churches protecting the worshipers.

 

Then they are not genuine Christians.

 

And Christians like dropping laser-guided bombs on schools and hospitals and water treatment facilities.

 

yep, in the bible too

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Chronicles+15:13&version=KJV

2 Chronicles 15:13

King James Version (KJV)

13That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.


and of course

"You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." - Matthew 7:5

 

yes, some Christians go and spread their anti-gay hate to places like Africa and their violence and hatred spreads

both sides have their fanatics

"5 Dangerous “Christian Hate” Groups"

https://thehumanist.com/news/religion/5-dangerous-christian-hate-groups

 

Hitler cannot be equated to all Christianity any more than Bin Laden can be equated to all of Islam. Yet they both committed their acts as if they did represent their whole religion.

You can either identify both or neither with their religion. Anything else is pure political brainwash.