Restaurant Recession Hits NYC Following $15 Minimum Wage

The thought of free **** is irresistible to the cretins

 

People get paid whatever someone else will pay them.

A thing, or a service, is worth whatever someone will pay for it,
and it costs whatever someone else will pay for it.

I pay my men just a little bit more than anyone else will pay them; that's why they work for me.

 

greedy rich people bad... but many good rich people out there.... yes, the orange dotard is one of the bad ones.. remember the kids cancer deal

 

It's not just that they don't know history -- although that is true of vast numbers of them -- but that so very many of them just outright reject what history means. An entire host of people who WANT to lie to themselves.

 

And politicians happy to do the lying

 

You really believe that?? You think businesses employ people out of the goodness of their heart? Regardless of whether they make $15 or $8 an hour, automation will reduce their costs significantly; they'd reduce the workforce in a heartbeat in order to eliminate paying any salaries period if they could do it today regardless of wage costs. It's all about money my friend. Plain and simple.

 

ummmm... yeah, makes perfect sense to fast track automation when labor just doubled

 

Even if the wages stayed the same the urge to institute automation asap is there.

 

So what your best assessment of what a living wage in say San Francisco or L.A. should be, roughly

All beds/one bed/two beds

Now that's JUST RENT, this doesn't include utilities, renter insurance, transportation and food and other things that goes along with life

 

What, does someone out there owe you employment because he wants to produce goods?

 

It's apparent that your reading comprehension skills are off again. Try to keep up.

 

Its apparent that you're bitching that someone would automate, eliminating human positions to make money

 

Try again.

 

This is a horrifying truth... to which I have personally seen, though not admitted by the elderly woman I was visiting at the time. Teaching people how to grow their own veggies in whatever is at hand, at least provides them some inexpensive foods to eat.... those that refuse to acknowledge their fall from economic stability, locally find themselves the receipient of unknown deliveries of assorted basic groceries from anonymous sources.

 

A large portion of what you describe as the 'urge to automate' is actually in response to the consumer pressure to do so... order on line, immediate pick up convenience, pay online.....

Since a number of retailers, actually most but not yet quite all, no longer carry in-store stock on sizes, styles and colors (inventory investment restricts cash flow and capricious 'fashions' cause overstock) they will order from a distribution warehouse, that has hundreds of thousands of items - barcoded and automation driven... because the consumer wants it NOW.....

So automation I not necessarily driven by greed of the business, it's a large part driven by the mentality of the consumer.

 

There shouldn't even be any minimum wage, a number of European nations don't have one.

 

It’s also being driven by the need for jobs to be done that people are no longer willing to do for any wage no matter how high.

An aspect of this subject seldom discussed is how easy most jobs are today. As a job gets easier physically and mentally because of technology should the wage increase? If the answer is yes, why have disparities in wages at allt? Just pay all hourly the same if the skills and sweat required are not directly tied to the wage. It’s a deep rabbit hole.

 

'Easy' is very subjective. For a kid and their first job, it's not 'easy' at all. Experience, speed, quality to name a few, all effect wage. Not all hourly deserve the same wage. It would be very simple if it was, and under certain conditions, it actually is: minimum wage. But for most, that is a one time answer only, until they prove their capabilities.

Taking it down to a very basic line, for me, if a worker comes in with a lets get it done, positive attitude, versus one who gripes and moans and complains constantly, who do you think will have the biggest effect on co-workers? Actually, the negative one. People will be brought down faster than the positive can bring them up, so you want to keep as many positive attitudes as possible... and to do so, better pay is usually a basic answer.

 

How is it preferable that businesses close?

 

What evidence can you show to support that claim?

"...annual wage growth has been greater (as a percent) for the poor than for the rich in the last few years."

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/03/wages-rising/519114/

 

Such information is at your fingertips; on the internet.

 

It isn't. But as others have said here, if a business cannot run unless it pays their employees poorly, they shouldn't be in business. Certainly not in America.

 

Wages? what about investment income. if I make 8 dollars and get a 25 cent raise I get a 3% growth 1% more than inflation, so at this rate I will have a lower middle class income of 35,000 in only about 29 years.

 

American businesses need to adapt to what government does and they generally do. The New York restaurants are no exception. They will do what they need to do.

 

And what a large number of the mom and pop restaurants will need to do is go out of business.

Don't worry, the corporate chains that operate on thinner margins. and can absorb losses in order to capture market share, will swoop in and take their place.

That's one more way in which the Democrats help out the little guy.