Schummer calls for 25th amendment to e invoked after capitol riots

I think recounts are out... Ossoff is up .8 and Warnock double that...

Raffensperger has until 1/22 to certify, which he'll likely take

I'm calling both to be seated on Tuesday 1/26...

 

I guess not, depending on what you call the events of yesterday....

 

I watched everything from the rally on, through Trump's speech, roughly an hour before the scheduled and announced time for the joint session with Pence announcing the electoral count, state-by-state. Trump's position by the time of his speech was for Pence to discard submitted state certificates on the electoral count...an interference prohibited by law. Trump clearly wanted Pence to violate the Constitution and thrown out the electorate certifications from the six swing states, and give Trump (and Pence himself) a second term. At the end of the speech, he encouraged the protesters to march on the Capitol building.
According to the DC police, the crowd turned from "protest" to "riot" at almost exactly the time Pence ruled on the Arizona count, thus demonstrating he was NOT going to throw out challenged certifications. The attack on the Capitol seems to have been coordinated. Main entrances, where media cameras were located showed lines of Capitol police barring entrance to the protesters, so there was initially police success in barring entrance. But, that lasted only briefly. The success ended with other entrances were successfully stormed, windows smashed, etc. I would suggest that it is possible that the storming of the Capital was deliberately times to coincide with Pence's failure to throw out state certifications of the electors.
Dis Trump deliberately plan all of this? Don't know. But, it's certainly worth investigation and if he's found to have been involved in an insurrection attempt, he should be held accountable.

 

Fair questions, but I think you're wrong. I think the new Congress has already been sworn in. The Georgia Senators swearing in excluded due to the special election.

 

A new Congress has been sworm in, with 51 Republican Senators (I was off by one earlier, I didn't realize Senator Loeffler continued to serve at the beginning of this term Congress) and 48 Democrat Senators. What exactly do you think I'm wrong about?

Here's a footnote from Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/117th_United_States_Congress#cite_note-runoff-2

 

I think automatic recounts (triggered if the margin is less than half a percent) are probably out. There are other provisions for recounts in Georgia, but I'm not sure if any of them will come into play or not. Seems like we mostly agree on this point though: Republicans will probably continue to control the Senate through the end of President Trump's term.

 

I think the last Congress's final act was to oversee the Pence count. Schumer has to be voted Majority Leader, as soon as the new Georgia Senators are sworn in (which I assume will be done ASAP). I would expect the next time the Senate meets for business, Schumer will be the Majority Leader. Should be easy to determine when a Senate term ends...could be wrong, but I don't think Congressional terms have to coordinate with Presidential inaug

OK...however, didn't Ossoff win by more than the 0.5% that mandates a recount? I was just stating that I don't think it will be "weeks" before the Senate does business with Schumer as Majority Leader. Admittedly, I could be wrong.

 

No, that was the first act of the new Congress (or at least very nearly its first act, depending on your definition of "act").

It'll probably be done in a few weeks. You realize the Georgia election isn't even completely over yet, right? They're still receiving overseas ballots today and tomorrow. After that, there's a process they have to go through before they formally declare a winner. Once that's done, the Senators from Georgia will be sworn in and seated. At that point, I'm not sure of the particulars, but presumably with a tie-breaking vote from Senator Harris (who isn't officially the VP until January 20th - do you realize Vice-President Pence is still the Vice-President? Even if the two Georgia Senators were seated right now, the Republicans still control Congress because Vice-President Pence still has the power to cast a tie-breaking vote), Dems will assume some form of majority control in the Senate.

Again, depending on what you mean by "meets for business", you're mostly wrong on this expectation.

You're right, it is easy to determine, and you're also right that it doesn't have to coordinate with the Presidential inauguration. This stuff is actually written down in this document we call the Constitution. In this case, it's in the 20th Amendment: "The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin."

Again, he has not yet won anything. The election is still ongoing. He's currently leading by more than 0.5%, and likely to retain something similar to his current margin once all the votes are counted, but as I mentioned earlier, that mandated recount is not the only recount provision in Georgia's election laws.

You almost certainly are wrong about that. It will almost certainly be at least a couple of weeks before the new Georgia Senators are seated. And again, even if they are seated earlier, Vice-President Pence still controls the tie-breaker until January 20th.

 

Of course Trump needs to be removed from office asap. In fact, it should be done when I finish typing this.

Just to state the obvious;
There has been NO RESPONSE from Trump WHATSOEVER regarding what happened yesterday.

No apologies.
No sympathy towards victims.
No acknowledgement of events.

Just cold blooded silence.

We should assume Trump is busy plotting his next move regarding his coup d'etat.

 

That's a lie. Trump posted various responses on social media. Those companies chose to take them down, but that doesn't mean there was "NO RESPONSE".

 

I would suggest that the protest turned to riot when antifa showed up to antagonize. I would also suggest that Hilary should have been locked up for colluding with Russia and destroying evidence. But she wasn't and that's in the past. Someone decided to do what was best for the U.S., instead of leading us with their emotions. I also offer that if Trump is forcibly removed from office two weeks before his term ends, it will solve absolutely nothing and people will eventually be very sorry. This is absolutely not a threat, but a prediction.

 

Here you go

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ep-kinzinger-calls-trumps-removal/6578197002/

 

Something needs to be done, doing nothing is a much precedent.

 

To "Hurricane" - OK I agree with your posts. To "Bridget" - All lending to the importance of an investigation.

 

I will say it a second time !!!!

1st time in US history it wasn't a peaceful transition. A transition takes time !!!!!

 

I wish they spoke up sooner !!!

 

And you're still just as wrong as the first time you said it.

 

One of the worst acts in US history and we still have some that are trying to sugar coat it !!!!

 

Yeah keep aligning yourself with traitors, must be a proud moment !!!!

 

That almost sounds like a promise. All it's missing is the final word, "yet."

 

Yes. And speaking of which, who do you reckon the violent guy we keep seeing with the backpack and the bandanna around his head is? Sure isn't dressed like Trump supporters normally are.

 

Sigh...
I don't mean Trump's belated response yesterday, which was rightly taken down because it only contained more lies.

I mean today, in the aftermath.
4 people have died(!), dozens injured.

You would expect a NORMAL President to address the nation, show empathy towards victims.

But Trump is not normal, is he?
His absence of humanity is frightening.

Which is why he will happily carry on causing more chaos if allowed. So he needs to be removed asap!

 

What about a possible Eric Prinz past or present employee?

 

Unless & until President Trump's shenanigans worry Republican leadership further, I think this idea is dead. The bipartisan, Congressional plan for the next 13 days, I believe, involves a lot of crossed fingers.