So WHY did God create Man and the Universe?

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  1. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Hahahaaaaa....

    Actually, the Bible has the power to get us all to talk about the subject of sexual behavior.

    But, even without that book, Welfare costs, Child Abuse to fatherless kids, and an America now divided in half all prove it is correct, even if you do not want to use the scriptures.

    Half of all babies born today are fatherless kids to young never married girls, and they are abused with poverty and anti-social behaviors.

    The Welfare costs are $1 Trillion dollars every year, which is more than the whole one time Bail Out of 2008.
    Things must change, or America will fall to enemies within or enemies without.
     
  2. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    ... but when I tell you Christ anthropomorphized the ideal of Truth, you still reject the concept and continue with mockery anyway.
     
  3. Gorn Captain

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    cupid, we could be discussing Bazooka Bubble Gum....or the GDP of Burkina Faso....

    and you'd find a way to discuss "sexual behavior".
     
  4. Gorn Captain

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    Show me PROOF that I don't use "spiritual discernment".

    :)
     
  5. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Isn't sexual behavior the reason we are all here?
    We're talking about the atheist sexual promiscuity VS sexual prudence of the church people???

    Right?
    Homosexuals and Feminists oppose scripture because it supports sexual prudence.
    The church attacks the behaviors of Abortion, Gay marriage, effeminate behaviors, naked dressing codes, Welfare, No fault Divorce, illegitimacy, etc.

    Right?
    You ignore that scripture says, Truth is the son-of-Reality.
    The Facts support opposition to these things.

    But you want to attack the church and the Bible to weaken their arguments.
    right?
     
  6. Gorn Captain

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    Oh, I didn't realize that YOU were "the Church and the Bible", CD.

    It must be a heavy burden for you....along with having to keep up with the sex lives of everybody on the planet.
     
  7. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Come on,...

    Face the Truth here.
    You "atheists," who are worshippers of Eros or Istar, fight the Bible and the church.

    Its because they and their people insist that "God" wants sexual morality, and you don't.
     
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    Face the Truth here....


    you have some sexual issues, CD. For "some reason", you are obsessed with sex and the sex lives of others, over all other topics. A Freudian would have a field day with you.
     
  9. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    ?

    Blind people do not see the Child Abuse in America as single mothers raise half the kids fatherlessly, depending upon Welfare and jamming up the cities everywhere.

    If you think this practical matter has little to do with the bible's complaint about sexual mores, then you are blind and deaf.
     
  10. Gorn Captain

    Gorn Captain Banned

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    CD, can I ask you a personal question?
     
  11. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Simple. Do you admit that Jesus is the Son of God? Do you confess that Jesus is your Lord and Savior? Do yo admit that Jesus now sits at the right hand of God?

    Be careful how you answer because you are about to make an admission regarding your spiritual status.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    You ask him by using the old language of the Bible.
    Ask him this way:

    Do you admit that Truth is the Son of Reality?
    Do you confess that Truth is your Lord and Savior?
    Do yo admit that Truth now sits at the right hand of Reality?

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    No.
    Its immaterial to the discussions.
     
  13. Gorn Captain

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    No, just your OPINION of my spiritual status. Not PROOF. Present PROOF that I do not come by my opinion based on spiritual discernment.

    ((What's the matter, Incorp....don't like somebody stealiing your schtick??? :) ))

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    Can I ask your opinon on something as it relates to morality and sexuality?
     
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    1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

    Thank you for confirming scripture.

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    I prefer the old language.
     
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    The Bible is not PROOF, Incorp. You have yet to present PROOF that I am not basing my views on spiritual discernment.....ergo you fail and I win the debate.

    (Fun, ain't it? I can see why you choose this way of debating. You can never lose. :) )
     
  16. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sorry but I fail to see the point you are attempting to make.

    My point is that the creation all religious scriptures has been by what we would consider profoundly ignorant individuals.
    Interpretations of said writings have always be driven by those with contemporary agendas and varying degrees of ignorance.

    Personality types may indicate the likelihood of a particular person accepting a particular interpretation or creating their own, but it does not in any way change the origins of their source material nor eliminate the fact of its profoundly ignorant origins.
     
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    Well, the 'Bible' is evidence which points in the direction of you not using spiritual discernment. Now if you don't want to accept it as 'PROOF', I have no problem with that. Of course, that could mean that there is no PROOF of anything relating to either the physical realm or the spiritual realm, if in fact either of them exists.

    Yes! It is fun. Can never lose because I am not obligated to accept anything as PROOF. You should, IMHO, now also realize that all of the arguments presented by either side of the fence are an exercise in futility. Have a nice day... and BTW: Congratulations on REALIZING the effectiveness of this method of (way of) debating.
     
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    So man can worship Him.
     
  19. Gorn Captain

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    Saving that....for the next time YOU pull that stunt, Incorp. Thanks.

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    Why does God NEED us to worship Him?
     
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    Who said anything about 'need?'
     
  21. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    ...sure...
     
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    Why does He WANT it then?
     
  23. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm,...
    You MUST have a very poor understanding of the meanings of the Bible which drive you thinking here.

    Starting with Gen 1:1 we see that verse by verse, facts are described that make scientific sense.
    "The Big Bang beginning" could not be more better described than what is said there.

    You need take another look at the writings and compare the facts to them.
     
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    Do you consider an image of a topless woman to be sexually immoral or pornographic?
     
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    Muslims believe God needs them for worship?

    That leaves them in a pretty good negotiating position, doesn't it?
    I believe "God created Man and the Universe" to give birth to "Truth."
     

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