Texas Judge Strikes Down Obama’s Affordable Care Act as Unconstitutional

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  1. fullmetaljack

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    In a more basic sense, what's the point of being a "good citizen" if you're going to be kicked to the curb if you have a medical disaster ? An advanced nation like the United States should take care of it's sick and elderly. Even if it's not a medical disaster, why should health care be such a burden ? (and it has evolved into a burden given the fact that it is mostly a for-profit industry)
     
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    The euros have a better idea when it comes to old people

    Just let them die
     
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    For those who did have pre-existing conditions with no insurance prior to ACA, they could still get Government supplied Pre-Existing Condition Insurance. That is what happened to me. My employers insurance would not cover my pre-existing condition aka Diabetes. So, I applied and got Government Insurance through health.gov. I had a $500 deductable with $25 co-pays for only $200 per month. The day ACA went into law, I was forced to pay $350 per month for $6k deductable with $75 co-pays which were limited co-pays. Most people with Pre-Existing conditions were just not informed of government insurance plans pre-ACA.
     
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    I have that same idea about trumpettes.
     
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    I have family all over Europe and that is blatantly false.
     
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    Mac-7 is suggesting a reality about old people that does not exist in Europe.
     
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    Won't work. But you're right, the fools will demand it. More's the pity--a liberty bell in exchange for a bedpan. Nathan Hale. What a waste.
     
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    At the point of a gun? Care for me or you die? Now that's rotten evil.
    Bandages and narcotics in exchange for liberty and freedom. Oh, we are certainly choosing wisely and justly.
     
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    Surely not everyone had your experience. Why did your costs go up and options shrink?
     
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    Because the government was involved.
     
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    Universal health care in America, of course, will work.

    To try to defend that it is impossible will fail.
     
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    That would be obama telling a woman at a town hall thwt government should let her mother die
     
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    To some, calling The Affordable Healthcare Act, Obamacare seems odd, when the bill was drafted by insurance companies and then passed by Congress (both house) but to a discerning mind, there is no mystery at all.
     
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    Nope, that was the crowd at a McCain rally.
     
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    Family all over europe?

    Thats your problem that I dont have
     
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    Mccain may have applauded the idea as long as it didnt apply to him but it was obama who said it
     
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    Nope, Obama, did not. Go ahead and give us the evidence in context, and you will lose. Give it out of context, and you will lose.
     
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    What on earth are you babbling about ?
     
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    Fortunately, your opinion is the one in the very very small minority. The majority of people, and both parties in Congress are aware of this, are insisting on coverage for pre-existing conditions. You don't like it? Tough crap for you.
     
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    Even he doesn't know. Another extreme right winger that is clueless about how insurance works.
     
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    Wrong. All forms of insurance are a type of shared risk. And almost all employer based health insurance already involves paying for pre-existing conditions.
     
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    Only government insurance starts with a gun. Free market insurance begins with a voluntary contract.
     
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    Really. I suggest you study philosophy and economics, and learn the difference between a contract and a gun. Fool.
     
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    We the People government, taxation, insurance, etc., is not theft. Libertarian refusal to participate is criminal.
     
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    You. You dirty rotten one-eyed jack.
     
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