The dread many feared has finally arrived

The problem lies primarily with corporations. They are the ones who are controlling our government and profiting from the so-called trade imbalances.

 

"We have certainly developed our capacity in intellectual property, health care, innovation, marketing, design, engineering, software development, alternative energy, petroleum production, service, retail, and other areas not tied to manufacturing. These are higher return opportunities than base manufacturing."

Nothing you say addresses the strategic importance of having our own capability. There is an issue of competing positions. One position is that each country does not they do best. That would be nice, if we never have a national emergency.

The other position is that we maintain the capability to do everything. It is not as efficient, but safer strategically.

It comes down to which is the most dangerous. The most dangerous position is to lose our capability.

 

Quarz doesn't have 1% of knowledge on America's national security issues and are probably 100% unaware of the nations Defense National Stockpile Center (DNSC) -> http://www.dla.mil/Portals/104/Documents/StrategicMaterials/DNSC History.pdf

http://www.dla.mil/HQ/Acquisition/StrategicMaterials/Reports.aspx

Defense Logistics Agency
The Nation's Combat Logistics Support Agency
Strategic Materials -> http://www.dla.mil/HQ/Acquisition/StrategicMaterials/Materials.aspx

 

I concur, the United States is Canada's national security.

 

What free market supporters don't get is that most Americans could care less about the Dow. They care about wages which for most are lower than 20 years ago, one of the worse period for wages in US history.

But it is pointless to note that. When you bring up business profits or the Dow in the context of free trade and miss entirely wage stagnation you don't get this point.

Free trade is dead until wage stagnation stops. Its as simple as that. You can cite all the theories and other economic stats you like and it will make zero political difference.

Wages, try to grasp why that's important. Or don't I guess its a useless discussion for those who don't understand that for most this is more important than all the other economic statistics put together.

 

"The strategic importance of steel to our national security ended somewhere between U235 and U238. Our ability to produce steel, if we wanted to, has not gone away. The plants are still there and, as you pointed out, we have tons of scrap metal lying around."

It would be a lot simpler if you put your comments outside of my quotes.

 

I am reminded of the strategic mineral debate in the 80's when, the Cold War lingered on, where people argued the Russians were trying to destroy the US security by gaining control of key minerals like platium. Never mind they were selling us all we would buy.

No one is going to threaten US security through steel. We can buy it literally anywhere. Nations are not going to destroy their economy by not selling it to us.

 

No really. They have a pretty decent military. and intelligence community. They can protect themselves. But Trump and the Trumpers are trying to claim that free trade with them endangers US jobs because of outsourcing, so we raise tariffs on their goods. Except no one outsources to Canada because of their higher wages, and stricter labor laws. They send jobs to countries with wages and labors laws below par with the US. That's the whole purpose of outsourcijng,to exploit workers.

 

Canada's military is more than decent, the quality of Canadian soldiers is equal to American, British or Australian soldiers, they can fight.

But Canada's military is so small but out of the 170 armies in the world, Canada is #20 in strength and capabilities.

Of all military combat operations to conduct the most complex and difficult to pull off is the amphibious assault and only 5 nations in the world have the experience, knowledge and have actually pulled it off in a real war, United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia and Japan. (Some like to throw in Argentine but the Falkland Islands operation was so small and uncontested)

What Canada no longer has is a large enough navy that it did have 45 years ago when it operated an aircraft carrier and had 24 destroyers, 4 submarines and over 50 support and auxiliary ships. Today Canada only has 12 warships (frigates) and 4 submarines. But Canada will be replacing its FA-18 for F-35's.

Canada no longer can depend on the UK for protection because Britannia no longer rules the seas and the UK's army is so small today but still powerful.

Canada depends on America for national security and the world knows anyone who ****s with Canada is ****ing with America.

The United States is dependent on Canada for the CONUS air defense and ICBM defense of America. NORAD is a joint U.S./Canadian operation.
Any nuclear exchange between the USA and Russia, all Russian silo launched ICBM will be coming over the Arctic and Canada.

Canada is just a little larger than the CONUS but has a smaller population than the hermit kingdom of California.

 

I find it likely that by this time next year the U.S. will have slipped back into recession, the difference this time being it will not be worldwide and is self induced.....thanks indeed Uncle Donny. Unfortunately your bankruptcy this time is going to hurt far more than a few banks and contractors.

 

Fighting against free trade used to be part of the progressive agenda, not too many years ago.
Remember the 1999 WTO riots in Seattle.

So ironic. The left has just as much of a split in their party as those in the conservative base do.

 

Most liberals still oppose free trade, and conservatives still support it. That's why the real Republicans are distancing themselves from Trump's attacks on free trade, because it harms their masters' businesses interests overseas.


I have always been very outspoken when it comes to free trade. I am all for free trade when it comes to countries like Canada, Austrailia, Germany, Japan, etc, who have wages and labor protections on par with or better than the US.

But I oppose having free trade with countries like Mexico and China, who have very low wages, and nearly non-existent labor protections. Hell the Chinese minimum wage is literally .75 cents per hour. All free trade with these types of countries does is incentivize companies to outsource jobs there in order to exploit workers. The one and only thing I like that Trump has done is to push to pull out of free trade with Mexico and China.

 

From your article, "A senior diplomatic source with knowledge of the discussions also said the photo captured an argument on the trade section of the communique." Yup, that was the issue alright. Thanks for the support.

From your other article, Trump said, “That was a very friendly – I know it didn’t look friendly [that's obvious], and I know it was reported as sort of like nasty both ways, I was angry at her or she – actually, we were just talking, the whole group, about something unrelated to everything, very friendly.” You still believe Trump? Wow, are you gullible or what?

 

If anyone deserves impeachment, this President does. He is lost. Even his followers can't defend him anymore. He lost the leaders of Congress, his party, long ago. Even segments of the Trump Network, er, Fox News, have become critical of him. His long time lawyer, Cohen, who once said he would take a bullet for Trump, will likely turn on him to save his skin. So might Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort.

In the meantime Trump is trashing GOP prospects in November with his immigration and tariff policies, wiping out the gains made by the Republican tax cuts, while making a total fool of himself on another front.

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump declared Wednesday that the North Korean regime no longer poses a nuclear threat following his summit with Kim Jong Un, even though the meeting produced no verifiable proof that the rogue regime will discontinue its nuclear program.

"Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office," Trump tweeted. "There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea."

On June 26, 2008, by Executive Order 13466, the President declared a national emergency with respect to North Korea pursuant to the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701-1706) to deal with the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States constituted by the existence and risk of proliferation of weapons-usable fissile material on the Korean Peninsula.

For this reason, the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13466, expanded in scope in Executive Order 13551, addressed further in Executive Order 13570, further expanded in scope in Executive Order 13687, and under which additional steps were taken in Executive Order 13722 and Executive Order 13810, and the measures taken to deal with that national emergency, must continue in effect beyond June 26, 2018. Therefore, in accordance with section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)), I am continuing for 1 year the national emergency with respect to North Korea declared in Executive Order 13466.

Signed, Donald J. Trump, June 22, 2018.

No one can trust anything he says anymore. Of course, he lost that trust long ago. He may never have had it. He was a B.S. artist from the get-go, and only became President due to American apathy. He is a minority President, elected by 27% of the electorate, the extremists of the Republican Party. Their extremism is on full display on this thread.

 

He is right here. We need to always keep critical industries alive in the US for nothing except national security purposes. America kept the military manufacturers alive during the depression, and when WW2 came, thank god we did.
I swear to god that the liberals slept during history and economics classes.

 

Must be why Trump suggested no tariffs but the left went nuts about that too. You just can’t win with enthusiastic losers.

 

He was elected because of the system created by our founding fathers as the UNITED STATES, by individual votes only within the states. It is the UNITED STATES, and we are a republic, not a democracy. . IF he was elected by 27%, who's fault is that? Sound like the other 73% were being stupid and not paying attention. However, the democratic party shot themselves in the foot running Hillary, a known criminal, for president. She even cheated in the debates. We 27% deplorables saved the country. Please thank us in 20-20.

 

Trump is doing so good, some democrats in Hollywood HOPE for bad things to happen, like an economic crash, so Trump would be removed. Yes, that is what they are saying, they HOPE for bad things to happen to the USA. Is that the kind of democrats and liberals we have here, HOPING for Trump to fail. Sure sounds like it.

 

On " on our vibrant economy"?

Not sure leftist can make that claim anywhere over 1.6% GDP without having to shower, brush their teeth and gargle with Mr. Obatard brand Kool-Aid!

 

Why yes, yes they are!

 

And the liberals are trying to give it away with globalism.

 

And with the numbers/purchasing power we are certainly poised to effect their bottom line much sooner then they will ours Lets DO IT!

 

You are using the CNN story who quoted an unnamed source (anonymous) that CNN does all of the time while the Independent's news story used no anonymous sources and named names of the quotes they published.

The Independent is in the news business who has real journalist.

CNN isn't in the news business and has no journalist working for them.
It's all Russia Russia Russia, Stormy Stormy Stormy, immigrants immigrants immigrants.