Transgender boy wins girls' state wrestling title for second time

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  1. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    She wants to compete with boys. From your article:

     
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    She wants to wrestle boys. Biologically she's a girl, but she wants to be a boy.
     
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    Mack is a girl that wants to be a boy.
     
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    "It" should have been allowed to compete with boys. It is the gold standard with regard to physical prowess. I'm okay with women participating in men's sports. There's a reason most do not and can not.
     
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    No, it doesn't. It wasn't clear at times, but after reading it twice, it's a female to male change. She's taking testosterone, which would make no sense for MtF, but makes sense for FtM.

    The fourth paragraph:
     
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    Mack's hormone therapy is legal and prescribed by medical professions.

    Common misconception. Mack has transitioned and is now a boy, because that's how transition works.
     
  7. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet she wrestled a girl for the State title all while on steroids. There's no honor in this, in fact it's theft.
     
  8. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mack is a girl that has been on testosterone and other steroidal hormones for years.
     
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    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mack is singlehandedly bringing back the spirit of the East German Olympic team.
     
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    your gonna have to explain what your trying to say, I am just saying government run schools would be prohibited from gender discrimination if taken to the SC

    the facts is, we all ignore certain gender discrimination as it makes sense in a case like this one here, but will the courts be able to say, yes... we think gender discrimination is ok

    that is not left or right, that is what does the law say... what does it say about it, race, gender and religious discrimination are the big 3 not allowed by the courts

    when segregating races in public schools went to court, they lost
    when segregating genders in public schools goes to court what do you think will happen

    equal rights will win almost every time

    the best course of action is to ignore this guy, if we take it to the SC to try and stop him, it opens doors you may not want open
     
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    really, I misread that, I thought was a boy wanting to be a girl entered the girls wrestling team

    well if it's a girl wrestling a girl.... isn't that what the right wants, so where is the issue? are they saying she should have to wrestle on the boys team?
     
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    That would suggest that they realise their 'faces' will suffer. They don't. I mean, they seriously don't. They quite literally, think it will mean more group hugs, more rainbows, and more puppies.
     
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    so no special rights for women then? how about illegal immigrants?
     
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    do you support government mandated gender discrimination?

    why should a son get less rights then a daughter? or visa versa?
     
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    I suspect they're saying she should be barred from competing until she sorts herself out. If she wants it bad enough, she'll give up the other nonsense for her sport. Like any genuinely competitive sportsperson does. It's a life of sacrifice.
     
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    for example?
     
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    Her private fantasy life has no place in her sport.
     
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    Identity is a social negotiation, not an edict. Only the overt narcissist demands the world shift according to their whims.

    The only person obliged to take this girl's delusions seriously, is herself and her therapist. And the therapist should not be taking it seriously as anything other than an unfortunate symptom of an untreated mental illness.
     
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    I don't think you have a clue what you are whining about. Try a google seach on Title VIIII. :roflol:
     
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    I do have no clue what your whining about? do your own searches, I never mentioned title VIIII???
     
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    and it did not, she is a girl, she wrestled a girl and won... seems exactly what the right wanted to happen happened
     
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    I'm taking it seriously because I like to treat people the way they prefer to be treated and wanting to change your identity isn't an illness because identity is not innate.
     
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    She's been bulking up on steroids since she was 15. It is an unfair advantage and she truly stole the state championship from a girl, Chelsea, who doesn't dope with testosterone.

    It's wrong.
     
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    So to be competitive now requires doping? That's what we're telling the kids. Lie about your gender identity and legally take performance enhancing drugs.
     
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    Identity is not innate, but it also isn't an edict. The only power you have over others in regards to your identity, is your name. Everything else is a negotiation. You might 'identify' as Supreme Overlord of the Alpha Quadrant, or a Film Buff, or a Cat Person, but the world will not necessarily agree with you. It is a pathological level of narcissism to imagine, expect, or demand that you be exempt from this social negotiation.

    Which is in keeping entirely with the untreated mental illnesses these 'trans' people are suffering. Not helped (at all) by complicit enablers .. who will have their own pay offs for doing what they do. Telling young people that the world will embrace any whim they feel like expressing is cruel, and deeply irresponsible.

    PS: Treating people 'the way they like to be treated' does not include pretending and lying to them. Unless you think they're dangerously unstable? Civility does not demand that we interpret the inner workings of the ill mind, and factor that accurately and seamlessly into our interactions. It requires simple and essential manners .. and when in doubt, use names.
     
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