Virginia-Based Imam Sulaiman Jalloh: Allah Willing, America Will Be a Muslim Nation

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    Yeah but that is just in the several millions.
    Not even close to Islam
     
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    Remember the Golden Rule..

    Whoever has the Gold,... makes the rules
     
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    You've just seen a squirrel, huh?
     
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    lol - right winger loses another debate
    no surprise
     
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    So I was in Texas at a local bar and saw George Bush.
    I walked over and said, Hi Mr Bush, watcha doing
    Planning ww3 he said.
    How's that, I replied
    I'm gonna kill 3oo million Muslims and a blond with big tits.
    What are you going to kill the blond for I asked.

    He pokes the bartender and says,
    see, Nobody cares about 300 million Muslms
     
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    ... makes sense
    lol
     
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    Yes, we misjudged this situation pretty badly.

    In the resulting civil war, we blamed the Sunnis for allowing AQ/ISIS. However, WE were attacking Sunnis, we were arming Maliki who was slaughtering Sunnis with government troops and his own militias. And, ISIS was slaughtering Sunnis.

    Suggesting it was THEIR fault is a little bit crazy. We were the ones who picked and supported a leader who grew up under the thumb of Saddam and had allegiances to Iran - a leader more interested in retribution for years of dominance. We were the ones who disenfranchised and attacked Sunnis, rendering them powerless against terrorists.
     
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    Their actions were in contradiction to the Christian doctrine. When some Muslim removes the head of some unbeliever, they are following their doctrine.
     
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    According to Christianity
    36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
    37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

    According to Islam
    Volume 1, Book 2, Number 26: Narrated Abu Huraira*)
    Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."
     
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    Well, most believe we have a Christian nation. Christianity doesn't dictate the form of government or the law to be applied. While Islam dictates both.
     
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    Motivated by money, not their religion.
     
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    While their actions contradicted biblical teaching, they "justified" their actions on Christian doctrine.
     
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    They were justified by Christians using the Jewish doctrine.

    The curse of Hamm
     
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    Hamm is a beer made in Minnesota. Muslims don't drink beer. ;)
     
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    Do you know how you stop a muslim from getting dunk at your party.


    Invite 2 of them.
     
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    If it contradicted Biblical teaching how could they justify their actions on Biblical doctrine?
     
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    There is a yuge distinction between mere Christian teaching and actual biblical teaching. Many (not all) Christians feel killing in the name of Christ is perfectly ok. Thus, the Inquisition, the genocide imposed on Native Americans, and yes, even Hitler's atrocities are acceptable to some of these people. By contrast, nowhere in the Bible is it taught that anyone can commit such crimes. As pointed out above, a true Christians is required to turn the other cheek and to be at peace with all men. But how many true Christians do you see anywhere? And why is it that you never see any of them in political power?

    The world would be a lot better off if more people adhere to biblical teaching. So why don't right wingers who call themselves Christian demand that???
     
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    David Koresh claimed he was Jesus Christ and therefore the only man in the compound able to have sex with all the women, based upon Christian doctrine. I wouldn't blame Christianity or Christian doctrine for David Koresh.
    And it was Christian who brought an end to slavery in the US.
     
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    Charles Manson claimed it also.
     
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    Which was only possible because of the slow reform of Christianity, by secular ideas. No such political changes would have been effective, 400 years ago. So, again...Making my point.
     
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    So, they were left to turn to evil, religious ideas, in the wake of having secular institutions and materials taken from them. Too bad they didn't have a better set of ideas to turn to, eh? Instead, they got stuff with vile islamic texts.
     
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    And Christian doctrine is what it is today PRECISELY BECAUSE OF REFORM.

    Have i mentioned the concept of reform in this thread? I think i have. ;)
     
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    I think another point is that few people could read, and even less had bibles, so the population was at the mercy of the priest telling them what God wants.
    Now someone can pick up a bible and say no, that's wrong.
     
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    I would say it was the slow reform of government.

    One step in that reform was the gradual exclusion of religion from government as can be seen in the history of England and other countries.

    By the time our founders came around, they were adamant that religion must be excluded from government.
     
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    Their civil service was more extensive than ours and we didn't change that. We just removed the leadership who were adept at making these systems work. Thus they were economically ruined by the USA and their infrastructure was slow to recover. We removed the generals from their military. We removed the people who knew how their electrical infrastructure worked, etc. And, it opened an opportunity for ISIS, which included them slaughtering Sunnis AND Shia.

    There wasn't any "evil". Iraq didn't switch to reading the Qur'an to figure out how to run their water system, etc.

    What DID happen was that Iraq was made weak due to the destruction of infrastructure and the sectarian civil war that WE established. And, neither Sunnis nor Shia were in a position to fight ISIS intrusion.
     

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