What would it take for you to switch?

By the American people you mean the leftists.

According to gallup. Support for gun rights is growing and support for more gun laws is diminishing and has been for a very long time. During that time the number of ar 15s has increased dramatically and gun violence has plummeted.
There is no correlation between gun crime and gun ownership.
That is a lie told by the left because they want power.
You cannot take an honest look at gun violence statistics and believe that gun laws will reduce crime.

 

Name a president that would pass your test.

Name a human who would pass your test.
Everyone lies, everyone hides the worst parts of their charecter.

You just hate how Trump displays his lack of charecter more than previous presidents.

 

Robert E. Allen, most Americans do not believe in the 'oath keepers' stuff like you do. You have less than 2% on your side.

Almost every President would survive the "test" in comparison to Trump.

Trump is evil not just bad mannered.

 

Most people could pass my standards. "basically honest" doesn't mean "always tells the truth." "at least marginally informed" doesn't mean "PhD in political history."

You seem intent on insisting there can no such threshold standards of any sort. As long as the guy mouths the right policy words, who cares about anything else. I find that destructive, short-sighted and sad.

 

There are no democratic candidates who are better in any way.

 

Obama was no better.

 

No human alive is basically honest. No human alive is basically transparent, no human alive is marginally informed on more than a couple of issues.

No policy has been more short sighted and destructive than the progressive policies of the last 50 years.

 

Oh, nonsense. Amy Klobuchar passes all those tests. So do Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren. Bernie doesn't, IMO.

 

Jeebus. Your view of human nature is appalling. You take "no, we can't" to a whole new level.

 

My view of human nature is accurate.
It has nothing to do with Cant, it has to do with won't.

 

Hmmm really? What about Klobachars anger? How she abuses her employees?

Biden really i thought he supported racists? That's what progressives have been saying.

 

By the American peope, you mean the far righties out of touch with the main stream.

There is no discussion with that kind other than 'no.'

 

Obama was far better, Trump far worse.

Robert E. Allen, after reading all of your posts, I believe you are far, far out of touch with what real main stream America believes and feels and wants.

 

By mainstream you mean your mainstream.

There are two mainstreams im America today.

 

How was Obama better? Bad foreign policy that Russia take over Syria?
Bad domestic policy that persecuted its own people using both the Irs and the Fbi as weapons?
Forcing people to buy insurance they can't afford to use.
Giving guns to drug cartels.
Hired Hillary Clinton in any capacity. She makes Cheney and Rumsfeld look like saints.

Yeah. Obama was a horrible president.

 

Trump has been in office for more than two years, and in that time Syria was taken over by Russia.

Trump uses the government to persecute his foes.

ACA has ensured 20mm people and they favor it, stil with Trump's attempts to make it unaffordable.

Clinton is no winner for sure but not any worse than the crew Trump has hired.

Trump is a far worse president.

 

All your opinion.

 

I gave you my list of threshold requirements. None of them were absolutes, and "Not a good boss" isn't one of them. That might be a reason not to vote for her, but it's not a reason to keep her off the stage.

And what do I care about what other people are saying about Biden?

The point here is that while Klobuchar, Biden and Warren are all flawed humans, they at least meet the threshold. Trump, by contrast, fails all four threshold requirements, and shouldn't even be in the running; he is a stain on the office, and should be removed on that basis; it doesn't MATTER what his policy positions are.

Kick him out. And then, from the pool of candidates that meet the threshold, choose the person whose policies you like the most. Just about any standard Republican will do, it sounds like.

 

Easily support and very hard to deny.

 

I am so glad I am not you.

 

Love it!

 

Yuh huh! Obama took all their guns and threw them in FEMA camps until the Trump revolution gloriously freeed them from democrat tyranny!

He also forced them to be Muslim like him and made their kids all gay!

 

we will never support discrimination based on gender, sorry, we don't want those votes

republicans changed the votes to 50, so not all you will get is far right and left judges

sorry, taxes are going up for the rich, back to where they were under Reagan

the left supports the 2nd

the Trump admin is the one violating the constitution, not the left

 

vote for Trump if he is what you think is the ideal Christian to represent the Republican party and their moral and family values

 

In order for me to switch from not voting to voting I would need a candidate with a solid plan to make federal government smaller and move most of it to the states, the private sector or the trash can. I won't be voting any time soon.