WHY do people resist vaccination?

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Why do people oppose the vaccine?

  1. Sheer stupidity

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    16.3%
  2. Paranoid distrust of the government/establishment?

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  3. Other?

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    46.5%
  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    FoxHastings said:
    :) Ok, some don't trust the government....so what exactly do they think the government is trying to do to them by having them vaccinated against diseases?


    Don't they know those "Secret Microchips" ( :roll: :roflol:) could've already been planted in their flu vaccines? Their beer? Their pot? Their grease filled food?
    Their booze? ....

    Maybe you shouldn't have made it so clear that you can't address my post...;)
     
  2. Collateral Damage

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    When the manufacturer of the vaccine and the government can be held responsible for adverse reactions (now and the future) perhaps a few more people would 'trust' what was being put out there.
     
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    As is quite apparent it is not a remedy. It is also unapproved and experimental. Trust pharma at your own risk.
     
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    Because neither of the drug companies, the FDA, NIH, Fauci, Biden, congress, can speak coherently with one voice, a voice that gets filtered by a corrupt media.

    It is pretty hard to make a case to me when you won’t even try to explain why our border has fallen and there is a no vax requirement for “people from foreign lands” pouring in.
    Everyone seems to have an angle except the citizens.
     
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    Remember, the CNN, MSNBC types were saying that any vaccine made during Trump’s reign was poison, and they would not take it at any cost.
     
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    It's distrust of the government/establishment... which is not necessarily "paranoid", so, I voted "other".

    I took both Pfizer shots, and will take a booster in another month, but that doesn't make people who distrust the 'authorities' inauthentic in their convictions.

    The 'authorities' have flipped, flopped, and totally contradicted themselves too many times over the last 18 months for people to accept what they tell us now without some healthy skepticism....
     
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    I got vaccinated, however I do not believe the government should be able to force you to, because it sets a precedent that allows them to decide what they can do to your body. It’s a slippery slope. One day it could very well be microchips for tracking population or conducting business, or whatever other crazy crap they come up with.

    that being said, I think people should get vaccinated. It’s kind of a no brainer. But they should never be forced to.
     
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  8. Mircea

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    I will provide you with 4th Grade Math instruction on percentages.

    700,000 / 330,000,000 * 100 = 0.21%

    We can infer that the lethality of STUPID-19 is extraordinarily low.

    I had it and didn't die and neither did my 85 year old father (who was asymptomatic) and neither did my 87 year old uncle who was in a long-term care facility at the time.

    We can compare the lethality of the Chinese Flu to the Spanish Flu: 0.21% vs. 0.64%.

    Clearly, Spanish Flu was 3x worse.

    I hope you now understand why many don't want to be vaccinated.

    I would also add that the one time I got the Flu shot, I got the Flu. I've had it once in the last 25 years and it was the shot that gave it to me.

    My experience with the Flu shot is not unique. Millions have had the same experience, but your not ragging on their asses.

    There is also a fundamental distrust which the both the government and the Lame-Stream Media have created.

    You need only turn on your TV to see the number of FDA-approved drugs which later turned out to cause death or serious illness or organ damage, because the FDA does not require longitudinal studies.

    Not one single FDA-approved vaccine has proven to be 100% effective or safe. The drummer in our band got polio from the polio vaccine. I grant you such occurrences are extremely rare, but they occur nonetheless.

    Vaccines are risk-reducers and nothing more. It is up to the individual to determine whether the risk is acceptable to them.
     
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    Depends how you look at it, but 700 000 Americans is not a small number. Covid killed 13 times more people in one year than Vietnam war did in 10 years. At this pace it will have killed 7 million Americans in 10 years, which is 134 times more than Vietnam war. Well, I suppose it has been going on for 1.5 years now, but I am sure you still see the point. Fortunately it is unlikely to continue killing at the same pace for 10 years.

    Yes, because they didn't know how to treat it. Today they would know.

    Yes. Likewise, it should be up to the employer to determine if they want to risk keeping unvaccinated people and possibly miss deadlines when they get sick.


    Why do people oppose the vaccine: Paranoid.
     
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    Because it is an inferior, rushed product that comes with a "take at your own risk" disclaimer. The long term effects are unknown and it does not prevent killing grandma, as promised. For the elderly, sick, and frail, the risk to reward ratio in in their favor and they should consider taking it.
     
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    If the vaccine worked like other vaccines and had the same effective rates it would be less of a problem. This is also the first vaccine of it's kind to hit humans
     
  12. Nightmare515

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    I'll answer for myself. I am vaccinated now but had no plans to do so before. I simply got vaccinated because my employer said that if you did you could take the mask off at work and then they proceeded to go back on that and made all of us put masks back on anyway vaccinated or not. Then a few months later it became mandatory but we all still have to wear masks so whatever.

    I looked at the data regarding who was at risk of serious illness or death from covid and I didn't fit the demographic. Folks in my demographic if they catch covid either have mild or no symptoms or maybe feel like they caught the flu for a day or so. That wasn't a big enough deal to me to take an experimental vaccine. I live by the "first in line" adage as a job description and what years of doing that has taught me is that being first in line tends to suck more often than not. So when given the actual choice for a change I wanted to let other people go first so I could see if anything happens to them then I'd think about going. I have no issue with vaccines, I think they are a wonderful miracle of human medical ingenuity that have thankfully saved millions of lives throughout the modern era. I take countless vaccines all the time as a work requirement and I don't mind because I know that whatever they just stuck in me they'd stuck in hundreds of millions of other people before me over the course of the past 20-70 years depending on which vax it is. Covax was brand new, I didn't have the hundreds of millions of people in front of me who already took it that I can see whether they dropped dead or not or developed some ailment in the future like I have with the polio vax. I would be the first round in public mass trials to see if there are any long term effects from this thing. Sure medical scientists have a relatively decent idea of stuff like that obviously before they release it to the public having done trails and whatnot but still. No company ever purposefully releases something to the masses with the expectation of it being recalled but recalls happen quite often once the massive beta test that is the general public gets under way.

    I don't like being a beta tester, I like to watch other people be the beta testers to see if the product works as intended before I use it especially when it comes to medical stuff. But at the end of the day I ended up getting a covax anyway because I was told I could take the mask off at work and they lied and made me put it back on a few weeks later anyway so whatever. But if given the choice I probably wouldn't be vaccinated right now. I've already had actual COVID, I have naturally what a vaccine does artificially plus even without all that it's not like I was worried about dying when I was diagnosed with COVID anyway.
     
  13. yabberefugee

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    Good idea.....why do you want to force others with your idea?
     
  14. Reasonablerob

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    Because they'll infect others?
     
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    Excluding those who have an actual basis for not getting vacinated(which are probably only a tiny minority of those who don't), it's mostly fear and paranoia for the most part, usually based on propaganda and highly questionable sources. And for the rest is just rebelliousness like you'd expect a petulant child to behave.
     
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    "WHY do people resist vaccination?"

    Because FREE people decide for themselves what to put into their bodies.

    One would think this is pretty easy to understand...
     
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    The "fear" of that is worthy of the "force"? If one is vaccinated, why is that fear warranted? It's hard to understand. Many that aren't vaccinated have the anti-bodies anyway.
     
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    I voted other. Here are but a few of many reasons why people resist vaccination:

    1) The hurried nature of the vaccine development
    2) The not-fully-tested nature of the vaccine
    3) The many reports of the vaccine's side effects being worse than just getting COVID
    4) The belief many have that they already had COVID and are already immune
    5) The belief many have that they are free individuals (with individual rights and liberties endowed by their Creator) and can make their own healthcare decisions. (In leftist lingo, "my body my choice")
    6) The fact that pretty much everything that the media has banged the drums on regarding COVID has been blatant lies/manipulations/misinformation.
    7) Because COVID is a scam and nobody has died from it; no vaccine is needed.
     
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    That requires actually talking to people... ;)
     
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    Then I suggest talking to people.
     
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    Correct. This is because vaccinations involve injecting people with a weakened/inactivated virus (amongst other ingredients). In the case of the mRNA jabs, people are being injected with only God knows what, but we are told that it is supposed to cause the body to generate "spike proteins" (as found on the outside of COVID) and that antibodies will form with regard to those spike proteins.

    Remember that antibodies are but one of many facets of the adaptive immune system, let alone the many facets of the innate immune system.

    The idea is that the shots are boosting the presence of antibodies (upon injected exposure to spike proteins) so that the adaptive immune system will then be "on guard" for, and better at "targeting", COVID.

    No, it wouldn't. It would be in the same form. The form of COVID would be the same whether or not you've been jabbed. The idea, however, is that the body (with boosted antibody presence) will be better equipped to fight off COVID upon re-exposure (hence, milder symptoms).

    There are a lot of good reasons to reject these jabs, actually. Earlier in this thread, I presented seven reasons, but there are many more than seven.

    Bingo. And there is good reason to not trust the government. People also don't like being coerced and forced into doing something; they'd rather be free persons instead of subjects of tyranny.
     
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    First off, let's not thoughtlessly throw around the word "anti-vaxxers". Most people are not anti-vaxxers, but are people who simply don't wish to receive THIS jab (at least at the given moment).

    People who haven't yet received (or wish to never receive) this jab are people of ALL races, colors, creeds, etc...
     
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    VERY well said!!
     
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    Fear, that’s the prerogative of the uninformed.
     
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    I read that smokers are at less risk of getting or showing symptoms of Covid. Maybe he's on to something!

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34328284/
     
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