Why do Republicans lobby on behalf of people who live like royalty?

Honestly, if these people had any idea what I pay in taxes, they would **** their pants.

My quarterly payroll tax is enough to give me heart palpitations.

 

...and when the "arguments" and narratives are shown for the dross and outright lies they are, here come the insults. Not at all surprised. The Left is nothing if not predictable.

Perhaps you should spend some time learning about the true nature of wealth in the U.S. and of innovation. You've been lied to and have a choice before you.

Another anecdote. Once upon a time, there was a very rich man who risked everything he had to get even richer by proliferating electricity into average homes in the U.S. Without the risks of this very rich man, you -might- or might not have electricity today. You almost certainly would not have the computer you are typing on or this forum to repeat common misconceptions on money and wealth. Do you know his name? Do you know what % of homes in China have electricity today?

 

Actually, it's even tighter than that.
With income taxes, the top 1% are paying 40% of the taxes. The top 10% pay 70% of the taxes.

Politicians also tell people that they will tax the corporations instead of the people, because that makes such a bill easy to pass. However that is a fraud, a lie- corporations do not pay taxes; they are in fact unpaid tax collectors for the government.

When a tax is applied to a corporation, is it a "cost of doing business" factor, an overhead expense- and as such, is built into the price of goods or services that you and other consumers buy from the corporation. They collect the tax from you as part of the price so it's not called tax- and they pay it to the government. The consumer pays, the corporation collects it for the government, and you think somebody else paid. Here again, the wealthy pay a much larger portion of such tax because they are buying more or higher priced goods.

 

BS excuses from the have- nots.

Anybody that is wealthy isa because they have connections or are crooks. BS.

Mosr people risk everything and bust their ass too try and make an honest living. It's easy to sit back and make cheap excuses to validate your position while never taking those same risks, considering every decision, it sacrificing to build something.

 

Why do Republicans lobby on behalf of people who live like royalty?

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What outrage? Astonishment maybe but no outrage.
I was just quoting a magazine article.

 

Why do Democrats lobby on behalf of and support obscenely wealthy Hollywood and MSM celebrities, insider crony companies and related, the high taxes and redistribution that benefit them, many more of those than S&P CEOS, who live like royalty?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

and mutually aligned interests.

FACT: Clinton took in a great multiple of corporate and Wall Street donations in relation to Trump. And a grossly disproportionate amount from the media/entertainment wealthy. But SURE, the GOP is the "party of the rich." Keep believing that ridiculous sham.

 

That's based on information that pertains to very remote situations, and does little to consider what's actually transpiring in most cases with regards to wealth disparity.

 

Does all that chest thumping on an anonymous internet forum make you feel any better? Newsflash: You are not the only one working hard.

To forgo having children for career, however, is your choice. It doesn't absolve you from paying taxes. In fact, the childless are actually moochers, because my children, which cost me $100,000s to raise, will pay for YOUR SS retirement benefits. You are welcome.

 

James 5:1-6 ESV
Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have corroded, and their corrosion will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure in the last days. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in self-indulgence. You have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. ...

Matthew 6:24 ESV
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money

Luke 12:33 ESV
Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys.

 

All I said was "Maybe we do differ in a way...you seem troubled and miserable."
That is just an observation based on your rhetoric. Nothing more.
But I do hope you're giving some credit to Nikola Tesla.

 

But....but...but...HILLARY!!!!

 

If they have no net income they don't pay income taxes.

 

We don't tax wealth except in the very limited inheritance tax.

 

Lots of ignorance there. First the this country did not have an income tax until 1916. The founding fathers despised the idea much as they despised the idea of large intrusive governments.

And please name those good reasons for taxing an inheritance that has already been taxed multiple times before it became an inheritance. Progressive taxes are purblind idiocy designed as a sop for the jealous and the useless and people who want to blame someone other than themselves for their lack of success. Barely any of the money so extorted ever winds up in the hands of the poor or there would be no poor. Most of the money winds up in the hands of a bureaucracy who justifies it's existence by creating faux crises, and moral equivalents of war to justify it's ever more suffocating regulatory regime.

 

Logic...
reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.
"experience is a better guide to this than deductive logic"

Most posts here are nothing more than opinions or gripes.
Debating opinions here is mostly entertainment.
The majority of it has no validity what so ever.
You just "Take what you want and leave the rest." as the saying goes.

 

What you were doing is in print for all to see, typical here when you and yours' toilet paper thin "arguments" and narratives get exploded, it's why I only bother engaging leftists when there is a written record to put their... on display for anyone reading.

Morgan, far more than either Tesla or Edison, put electricity in the hands of the common people. Yet another way the Complex lies about wealth, by discounting and ignoring (if not outright vilifying) the IMMENSE contributions of financiers to American innovation and quality of life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleiner_Perkins

How many of these firms are familiar to 1% the degree of Edison's familiarity? All by design of the Complex and its hegemony in information and education. Thank goodness the net is rapidly eroding that toxic, dishonest hegemony more and more every day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_venture_capital_firms

 

By all means, please continue your quest.
I hope you can find peace of mind soon.

 

most people are not rich.... most people are middle class or upper class... I'm talking about real wealth, millions in the bank..

I'm talking about families struggling to pay the rent, I'm talking about the single mother who has to work 2 jobs and the CEO who earns millions in bonuses because "she" worked hard... not him.

Why don't you look around you... plenty of hardworking people sacrificing to build something and getting nowhere.. I think you are ************ yourself.

 

Here you should do some reading, people work two sometimes more jobs and still poor, you can lie to yourself as much as you like but DON'T tell me you get rich from hard work

The rise of the second job
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/apr/20/rise-of-second-job

UK bosses make more in two and a half days than workers earn all year
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...-workers-will-earn-all-year-fat-cat-wednesday

 

A note from the other side here. The fact is that there is more opportunity today than I've ever seen in my life, and I'm 77. I've owned 7 businesses since starting my first at age 26. Businesses are in desperate need of productive people. NOT JUST PEOPLE, but productive people that can help the business succeed. That is something in very short supply- and pays very well. We are in need not only of engineers and technical people, but in people rich in the fundamental skills of working, which anyone regardless of education and experience can bring to the table.... but few do.

A business is not a social service agency. They do not exist so that jobs will exist- actually jobs exist because the business exists. Making the company run well insures that the jobs will continue to exist, and the employees benefit. The company rightfully sees the employee as an individual in business for themselves- selling their particular service for an agreed upon price and conditions. This is no different than you as a customer buying a product or service and expecting your moneys worth and to have your business appreciated, except that the norm here is for the employee to think that when he is the seller instead of the buyer, the buyer does not have the right to expect his money's worth nor to be appreciated.
A business shops for the services and products it needs just as you do- they want the most value for the money. That is prudent and good business.

So then the way for an employee to maximize his potential, is simply to be the best value. All employers are looking for certain basic characteristics, which they deem quite valuable and anyone can provide. Among those are reliability, honesty, quick learning, and good work habits. IF you bring those qualities to the interview, you already have the advantage over most of the applicants. A great many people simply don't think that is fair; believing that the company should allow their problems to become company problems- when the miss work, goof off, create disharmony, things like that. That is the social-service attitude where the person assumes that being physically on the premises is the same as working.

If you are a performer providing good value to the company, you are showing them you are capable of more- and most all employers are looking out for that. If that company does not recognize that value and appreciate it, then simply allowing others to know who you are creates the competition for your product- and you get a better job at a higher wage. That is how it works. You have a product for sale- make it worth all you can, and employers will be glad they found you.
Just remember- you are in business too, and YOUR EMPLOYER IS YOUR CUSTOMER. Treat them as one, and you will be greatly appreciated.

 

I'm self employed and have a good life... that doesn't change the fact that increasingly more people have to work longer hours and get nowhere. Wages have stagnated and the pay gap is beyond stupid. No amount of sucking up to your boss is going to change that... oh wait... if you put out he may favour you over other workers... so yes you probably have a point. Asslicking, corruption and screwing other people will get you everywhere.

 

Amusingly enough, the sheriff of nottingham got his money by taxing the hoi polloi. Not so coincidentally, this is the same tactic that lefties love to employ.

 

Not a magic trick. Lefties do it all the time, and quite brazenly. For example, you know all those state lottery scams that say they help fund things like those innercity schools that can't teach kids how to earn more than minimum wage even after 12 years? Well, they sell those things to poor people so they can dream of what to do with all the money they'll never win.

The trick then is to give some of the profits from the lottery scam to groups that benefit lefties. Now how... oh wait! Teacher unions! If you want to be a teacher, you have to join a union which forces you to pay union dues. Then that money is funneled to the lefty politicians who came up with the lottery scam in the first place.

That's just one of many examples of how a few shekels here and there, spread out amongst the throngs of the walking poor that lefties love to keep poor can make you rich.