Why the right has no chance of winning the Culture Wars

I'm not American. What drives these people?
Can non-Americans understand them?

And why are they so fixated on Donald Trump, who's a terrible idiot?

 

honest abe was pres, the upstart republican party which has little in common with todays republicans i am aware of the hatered many had for republicans over slavery, so much so that many would not join the republican party, till it became clear with democratic supported legislation that democrats were the movers on civil rights, i am basinf this on four term FDRs moderately liberal platform, that people like ann coulter condemn to this day, bringing up dixecrats on last century ignores the entire new deal
and is the arguement always given from RW media types a cherry picked group of "facts" ...you cannot ignore the southerners vs northerners aspect as if in all these years both parties have remained stagnant it just leaves out the real world

 

So it's a belief. And the culture warriors need to legislate against a BELIEF. You might not remember this but before the Republican Party became the fascist Party Republicans used to defend the right of people to believe whatever the hell they wanted: arrogant or not....

 

I agree that the left tends to govern (give away stuff) in favor of the people and not just of the donor class. But I don't this is why we will win the culture wars. The left will win the culture wars because most people realize that everybody should have equal rights. Republicans used to win culture wars when they fought for human rights too.

 

Made me laugh The obvious answer is "NONE OF THE ABOVE" Pretty hard to procreate without using the proper delivery system and receptacle!

 

I don't quite agree. The norms change, the mores never change. What is objectively moral today has always been objectively moral. Slavery has always been immoral, for example. Even in societies in which it was the norm. Mistreatment of others might have been practiced by some societies, but it has NEVER been considered moral. Treating people equally has always been considered the moral thing to do. You can read it in any religious book of any society that has ever thrived.

 

I didn't men to rebut your arguments with mine, just adding. I might even say I probably agree with them......... up until this post when you credit the left with supporting equal rights when that is 180 degrees out of phase with reality. It is the left who want to take away my religious freedom, my freedom to speak and write, my freedom to assemble, my freedom to own and bear arms, etc, etc, etc..

 

It’s considered the moral thing to do today, but not always in the past. We look back on history through 21st century mores. Not the mores of the time.

 

Yes. Non-Americans can certainly understand them. Every society has had a "Trump" at some point in their history. Germans had Hitler, Russians had Stalin, Venezuelans have Maduro and Chavez, ... All societies have had at some point in their history some politician who influenced masses with false populism for personal gain. I'm not saying that Trump or DeSantis are suddenly going to start a genocide. I'm talking about their followers. But to understand MAGA followers all you need is to understand the followers of other populist egocentrics in history. It's not unique to Americans. It's only unique at this point in history.

 

Gays are not going to exist in 100 years????? Wow! How do you think that will be accomplished? Eugenics?

 

You have ALL the rights so long as your rights don't infringe on anybody else's rights. Gay people marrying whoever the hell they want doesn't infringe on anybody else's right to marry whoever the hell they want, for example. To take just one of the things you mention, you can hold whatever religious beliefs you want so long as your beliefs don't include something like locking up infidels. Or in any way impose them on others. When has the left infringed in any of those? What religious right of yours has the left sought to infringe? If such thing has happened I will immediatley take your side.

 

I don't think you are correct. The transgender agenda being forced on kids in our schools, stores, amusement parks has alienated parents.
Most Americans Oppose Transgender Agenda - Rasmussen Reports®

 

You're not cramming down TOLERANCE. You're forcing people to accept what YOU tolerate. That's the very definition of INTOLERANCE.

 

You're not looking at the big picture here Golem

 

You are struggling to make sense and failing miserably. To ACCEPT other people is what tolerance IS.

I have NO power to "force" you to accept anything. I don't know you and we probably don't even live in the same state. But when fascists that DO have power to force others to do things, that's different. When fascists with power impose on gay people who they can or can't marry THAT's intolerance. And we should never tolerate that. You can be as big a bigot as you want. And you have every right to be. But when you go out of your way to PUNISH others for what they are. For example, when you boycott a beer company because they feature a gay person in an ad (which is the example on the OP) THAT is intolerance. What business is it of yours a private matter like sexual preference, or who they marry, or what people do with their own body?

 

Oh... yes I am. A much broader picture than you can imagine. But I'd probably get in trouble with the mods if I explained the picture I'm seeing to you.

 

Then it's most likely BAD EGG information Go with yer gut I suppose ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

No, you are wrong again. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. You're the one who opined that those YOU believe are intolerant need to have TOLERANCE CRAMMED DOWN THEIR THROATS. That's the very definition of intolerance, forcing people to be like YOU.

 

Lot of irony in that read So you tolerate all things, all people regardless of their actions, likes, dislikes and sins

 

The left has been in a full throttle guns blazing assault on the freedom of religion, press, speech and assembly, and owning and bearing forearms, etc.for going on decades now.

I personally don't care if states recognize gay marriages or not (though I would lean to at least bestowing marriage rights on married gay couples -- ya know like visiting rights, estate transfers, and the like), but it is none of the federal government's or SCOTUS's business. States should decide what they want to allow and recognize and what they don't, not a few unelected unaccountable sequestered guys wearing black robes.

 

Why the right has no chance of winning the Culture Wars

Does anyone really care? The culture wars are a manifestation of the Republican Party to create a diversion to the two leading Republican candidates for the Presidency, Trump and DeSantis. They are two candidates who can't possibly win a general election.

Last time out, Trump lost by seven million votes to an old man.

DeSantis is worse. He has declared war on Mickey Mouse because Disney said something DeSantis didn't like. By far, Disney is Florida's largest employer. The amount of taxes it and its employees pay into Florida coffers is incalculable. How stupid is that.

DeSantis, "We will wage war on the woke." That is ridiculous. It is the best the Republicans have.

Can't blame the Republicans if they want to change the subject. They do it all the time.

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Trump and Desantis are speaking only to Trump's fans. They actually believe the ludicrous culture wars stuff. They, too, want to avoid talking about their party's leaders.

Trump has lost every election he has been in, and most of his endorsed candidates have lost. Under his leadership, the GOP lost both the House and the Senate.

Despite the fact that the Democrats chose the worst possible candidate in 2016 --Hillary Clinton -- and Trump was helped along by the FBI director who opened an investigation of Clinton ten days before the election, Trump still lost the popular vote.

Trump is a loser, but his fans adore him for some unknown reason they cannot explain. They say they like Trump's policies, but they never explain what policies they are talking about.

Trump's domestic and foreign policies were a disaster. That is why he lost his reelection by seven million votes.

Today, he is facing a criminal indictment, lost a $5 million sexual assault lawsuit, and is facing multiple DOJ indictments for his role in inciting an attack on our capitol and stealing hundreds of pages of classified documents.

Through it all, his fans still adore him. The more trouble Trump has with the law, the more they like him. They blame the FBI for Trump's criminal activities, and the "liberal" media for reporting those illegal activities.

 

What in the world are you talking about?

Do you have a source for all that, or did you just make it up?

Without a responsible source -- that eliminates far right propaganda -- your statement is completely meaningless.

 

DeSantis, "We will wage war on the woke."

Can a Republican please explain what DeSantgis is talking about?

 

Bud Lite should be the easiest product to boycott simply because it's so replaceable. At it's best, it's mediocre and if you really like mediocre beer there are a lot of options. Target is more difficult since suburban moms seem to really like it for some reason, so it's unlikely to have any prolonged sustained effects. But the truth it's not just those two, it's nearly every corporation and unless you are going to live an Amish lifestyle, that's not sustainable.

I think a year from now even the Bud Lite fiasco will be forgotten. They'll change the label on the can, say it now has electrolytes or something, and people will forget about it.