Why the right has no chance of winning the Culture Wars

The DOI says at least one does. But where do you think eights come from?

 

I wasn’t alive through his career. I still haven’t heard of him. I have heard of Rush Limbaugh. Political commentary isn’t exactly full of the most thoughtful and rational people.

 

You only attain rights when the government declares recognition of them. Never seen a modern religious text advocation for some kind of government document based on western enlightenment concepts. Eastern cultures and other non western countries have different philosophical values on how society should be structured and right and wrong. Your cultural concept of rights is not universal or absolute, nor do westerners constantly agree with each other on rights.

 

Which is why the radical left wishes to assume the responsibility of parenting and education... Indoctrination.

 

Statement A: The only thing we should treat illogically is logic.

Statement B: The only thing we should not tolerate is intolerance.

A=B

 

I can define wokeness.

"The arrogant liberal belief that societal progress is dependant on a ideological savior mentality largely based on challenging traditional values and imposing, usually through force, revised values that actually do nothing to resolve conflict and only drive the wedge through previous accomplishments."

 

You don't think the radicalized progressives are alienating votes?

The left always likes to tout their domination in the voting block... yet, conservatives control the legislative and judicial branch and the Democrat executive is getting smeared.

I have been hearing for 20 years how Republicans are losing control. Facts don't represent this.

 

So rights are not necessarily universal as you stated

 

There is afterall no shortage of arrogance in the radical left.

Ironically, almost every hard core lefty I have encountered has convinced themselves they have all the answers for society, yet are simultaneously the ones whom have never accomplished much in their personal lives.

You know the old adage... talk is cheap.

 

Like slavery?

Women's right?

Lol.

Silliness

 

thankyou for confirming you are fairly young and get your information thru RW media sites

 

They aren’t universal. I have traveled internationally, lived in different countries, have family from all over the world. The cultural war battles Americans are having today aren’t as important and would never play out the same in other cultures. There are people living in China perfectly happy without freedom of speech or protest. Germans enthusiastically gave up the freedoms they had in the Weimar Republic for fascism. Plenty of Russians are happy feasting on government propaganda while seeing their fellow neighbors getting their heads split open in the streets for protesting the war.

The general problem I see is lack of human empathy and compassion for others struggling under oppression and brutality. I have human empathy. I know my capacity for empathy isn’t a sign of human rights being universal. Hitler believed enemies like Jews and commies were causing the good Germans to struggle. He rationalized his violence as self-defense and unapologetic destruction of enemies as a vital part of constructing a strong German state. Stalin rationalized his destruction as well. Through the course of American history, we have rationalized slavery and brutality of native populations despite the bill of rights for claiming all men are created equal.

human beings can twist their concept of rights and principals so that they don’t apply to others. In that moment, humans can rationalize brutality towards each other, all despite thinking they are civil, cultured, and good Christian’s or whatever religion you happen to be.

 

I do not think the right is winning the culture war either, though my rationale is simpler and more general. The left like to allow people to do whatever they like, like to give away stuff using other people's money, and a great number of people like that Plus most of that great many can't see consequences more than three feet in front of them. That is why the left is doing well in the culture war.

 

not anymore, that is true

 

yes it is easier to tell kids to eat candy and watch TV than it is to tell them to eat healthy and study hard. instant gratification is the left's biggest advantage-at least short term

 

Great mindless schlock. You must have researched for hours to come up with that. Ironic you're frequently the most intolerant poster.

 

Who was President during the Civil War? What party did they belong to? Who controlled the south and largely supported slavery and which party did they belong to? Which party had the first black representative?

Answer those questions?

 

When the culture war started, being gay was illegal and even interracial marriages were illegal in some places.

If the culture war ended today, and no more progress towards the left was ever made, it would be an overwhelming victory.

The pendulum may be slowed down, but it's never going back to where we were when the culture war started. The left has won it so resoundingly, that you'd never consider making homosexuality illegal.

 

broder is (was?) a conservative repub writer for the ny times . i think he went "never trump" and was declared a "non person" by the kind of people who would describe him as moderate"

@Turtledude
is that close?

 

The norms and mores of a society change over time. What was unacceptable yesterday becomes acceptable today and vice versa, what was acceptable yesterday become unacceptable today. Human sacrifice is a good example, acceptable in past societies, totally unacceptable today. The only constant is change occurs, the norms and mores change. Most folks don’t like change, rapid change, that takes them out of their comfort zone. Change takes time. Some are more willing to change or adapt to change, others aren’t.


A lot of folks get angry when they’re forced out of their comfort zone, to change. Their thinking, it’s always been this way and it should always remain so. But change is going to happen whether one likes it or not. I think change is in a way technology driven. Acceptance of different lifestyles comes very slowly, but it does come. It takes time to get use to it. Women would still be the ones who cook and make clothes while the men hunt for food and build shelters if it weren’t for advancements in technology or the way we do things.


I think we’ve always had these culture wars, but over time mankind advances. The norms and mores change, what was unacceptable become acceptable, what was acceptable becomes unacceptable as we continue to more forward in time. Perhaps the only losers are those who refuse to advance. But they do over time. Depending on the issue, the timeframe may be short or it may take thousands of years. It depends.

 

a definition that defines no one is a definition of nothing. when we are ready to "use force" we will let you know.

 

not a conservative republican. Washington Post: hard core centrist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_S._Broder

 

Red Herring.

Thus argument assume those whom oppose your full cultural agenda the must also want to persecute guys. Or trans. Or anybody else.

That's a false narrative, so to claim victory seems silly. Technically, "your side" opposed freeing the slaves. Should we define your current platforms and characterize your side as pro-slavery?

Secondly, when was being gay ever criminally illegal?

Third. Times change and new perspectives emerge and old ones fall away. Again, for instance, it was your side that claimed our returning veterans were baby killers and spit in their faces. Should I assume that your side is still anti-military personnel, or just anti-law enforcement.

You're making weak arguments to try to get a victory and pat yourself on the back.

 

You are correct, as a white southerner, my side did oppose freeing the slaves.