How is it possible that Trump got elected?

You could have said so. We aren't mind readers, and most of us are involved in several threads.

 

OMG! When will you people stop blaming everyone but Hillary?
When you you people ever admit that Trump outwitted you at your own game.

All of you are so quick to point the finger at everyone but the person in the mirror.

If Trump is so stupid, what does that make you?

 

No, she was just showing her disdain for Trump supporters and for good reason.

Hate is a pretty strong word, but it is safe to say she was not fond of the far right that makes up the majority of Trump supporters. They climbed on the bandwagon when Trump proclaimed that Washington was responsible for all their troubles. Then he promised to "drain the swamp" for them. His gullible base believed that a billionaire would take care of them. Trump told them what they wanted to hear, and they believed every word of it.

What did he really mean? He meant the removal of the leaders in Washington otherwise known as the "establishment" in Trump's vernacular. When you attack the leadership of a government, what do you get? You get chaos. If you doubt me, read the comments by Trump supporters on this thread. Read what they say.

Trump supporters voted for chaos. Clinton didn't like those who wanted chaos in Washington. She called them deplorable.

That wasn't her finest moment.

 

I said, "Clinton was doing just fine, according to the polls. Then, eleven days before the election Comey re-opened the investigation of her. During the week before the election, her lead melted away.
Trump was lucky, really lucky."

Are you questioning that? If so, can you more clear, more specific?

I didn't say he was stupid. I said he was lucky.

Why the personal assault? Of course, that is a typical tactic by a Trumpian when he doesn't like the facts. The messenger of the facts becomes an immediate target. It is an infantile, foolish tactic.

 

You have the hardest time giving Trump the credit he is due. Trump and the Trump organization beat the Democrats. Look at all of the polls that favored Hillary - they were all wrong - yet here you are quoting them. Here it is a year later and you still can't get over the fact that Trump EASILY beat your candidate.

I'm not assaulting you personally - I consider all of the left wing to have some sort of mental illness when it comes to Trump - an illness that won't allow them to peel away the grist to get to the kernel - Here it is - Trump and his supporters have stolen a play from the DNC and are sticking to it - "It's about the agenda - protect the agenda - support the agenda - fight for the agenda."

 

In my opinion, Hillary Clinton was the most hateful, most corrupt, and most irredeemably malicious candidate for president in the history of the United States. So when she points an accusatory finger at others, how much credibility should I give it?

 

I'm not so sure.

Of all GOP nominees, delegates chose the most rude, the most vindictive and the most liar of all.

One whose personal interests were clearly at odds with those of his constituents.

And you chose him with a lot of enthusiasm....

So are you going to make me believe that Rubio or Kasich were bad candidates compared to Trump?

 

Because you choose to be.

 

Or, as an author and a former columnist, he simply enjoys writing and has a lot of time on his hands.

 

Mac thinks all critics of Trump have to be liberals. He doesn't once think they might be true conservatives. Gosh, there are even some Republicans who are critical of Trump.

Mac feels better when he blames all criticism of Trump on liberals.

 

I guess you didn't read the post you are replying to. It had nothing to do with the guy who hasn't been our President for the past ten months. It is all about the guy who has been our President for the past ten months. For your convenience, I will repeat the post.

"I agree with you to some extent. All I am saying is that Trump had a lot of help, and his supporters picked the wrong guy to cure the ills you mentioned.

"Trump had no experience in governance, none at all in foreign relations. He never served in the military, so his supporters picked a Commander-in-Chief with no military experience. As a consequence he acts like a wrecking ball in a china closet, and he can't keep his damn mouth shut. He creates controversy out of thin air with his moronic tweets.

"All I'm saying is, that wasn't very bright."

 

Yup, that was a factor, too. Young, spoiled millennials who didn't get their way. So, many of them pouted and stayed home on Election Day. As a result the most anti-Sanders candidate in the election became our President. Trump is the very opposite of their cherished socialist candidate.

 

Quite true. It's called mugging your nose to spite your face.

 

You are still trying to justify your dumbass vote for Trump.

Well, guess what? You voted for a serial liar, one that puts Hillary to shame.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-claims-over-298-days/?utm_term=.8178b1fcfb5b

You can be so funny sometimes.

 

I quite agree. Just about anyone but Trump. Unfortunately, the new Republican voter picked a candidate whose intelligence was on par with theirs.

The other Republican candidates talked funny, big words and such. They talked about policies. Trump talked about kicking Muslim and Mexican ass.

 

Must make you angry that your woman lost. And to think who beat her.

 

You still try to justify your vote for the loser. This is rich in irony. She might yet end up in prison. Then no doubt you will make things up to exonerate her.

 

Every poster calling Trump dumb, stupid or not very bright better have accomplished a lot more than Trump has.

So are you living in a routine tract home in Southern Ca or not? Do you own a variety of airplanes? Do you have some magnificent homes? Do people golf on your golf courses?

My candidate was knocked out by the public who refused to vote for my choices. I am not happy but after more listening to Kasich, i think we do have the better man as president.

You voted for Hillary and lost. I voted for Kasich and lost.

 

Mac realizes as i do that we already have a president. Mac and I and millions more of us, believe that given his opponents in congress, what Trump has managed to get done is a marvel. He has done much to dismantle what Obama did. Do you see other conservatives ripping the Obama legacy to pieces? Would Hillary, your choice have worked hard to dismantle the deeds by Obama or not? She would clearly back what Obama did. Conservatives do not back what he did. Conservatives did not vote for Hillary Clinton. Some lied by calling themselves conservatives but this is typical of Democrats.

 

You are so out of touch, I can't believe you actually said these things about Trump supporters.

The election for president was about one thing and only one thing - the Trump agenda - Build a wall and close the open borders, kill off the job killing trade treaties, Create an environment in terms of fewer regulations and lower taxes that invites business and jobs back to the US. Create even more jobs by rebuilding a decaying infrastructure. Get rid of anti-American, anti-family legislation and regulations; make sure that American jobs are for American citizens before we look elsewhere for labor, cut back the job stifling anti-business federal bureaucracy.

Oh yes, Rubio and Kasich were terrible candidates because that supported the status quo

One more time - It's about the agenda!

 

I first supported Gov. Scott Walker. When he fell, i switched to Kasich.

But to compare Hillary to Trump one must also consider that she took over the State Department. That added to her credentials but not to the point one says she became expert of government. She lived with a tainted president.

I no doubt speak for me, but since i did change to vote for Trump, of course i knew he lacked government experience. So had Obama, yet his voters acted like that never was important. Trump fights back. When they do not attack him, he is not fighting anybody. Is he fighting Putin or China or Japan or England? He has made so many global friends we need him today. Some confused Obama's big mouth with actual government intellect. But the man was extremely slow witted. His decisions took him many many months of agonizing time to come to. Few of his decisions were intelligently done. Why some call him intelligent mocks the truly intelligent. Bush for instance was far more decisive. Bush did not spend agonizing months making his mind up.

Rubio was not prime time ready. I like his being a republican but he simply is not ripe on the politicians tree. Say he becomes governor of Florida, then he has to make executive decisions over a multitude of agencies. He and Hillary lacked such seasoning.

 

I gave my reasons for voting for Trump and i wanted one of out top governors to become president. But alas, when in the fall the ballots were presented to me, Trump was clearly the top man for the job.

The public had culled the herd so my man was not on the ballot in November. Had Trump lost, we would have Hillary. And this country still would be a horrible mess were she to have won. @Sandy Shanks declared he held his nose to vote for her. I did not have to hold my nose to vote for Trump.

 

I see it the same way? I am shocked @Sandy Shanks rips Trump after he voted for Hillary and told the forum he voted for her, after holding his nose. Did I fairly state his vote?

 

I am much more expert in Dodd Frank regulations and frankly were i able to, I would force Obama to live a year with those regulations and then tell me he loves them.

They are wrong. Obama was stupid to agree to the laws. They punished so many truly innocent people and forced them deeper into having ten times harder time to earn a living than in the past.

We in CA already face daily the CA laws and they are very much favoring the consumer. But Dodd Frank was a full out federal assault on my way to make a living.

I want you to imagine this were it true. But it may give a way to evaluate Dodd Frank.

Say you bank at Bank of America. And for life you never had any problems. Suddenly along comes Dodd Frank and you learn you must attend banking courses and pay the feds $500 as a fee to use the bank.

Would you get angry?

What actually happened to my industry though not exactly the same, resembles just that. We had already been paying for more and more education. We had already passed our many state exams. We kept paying for courses and more license fees. Dodd Frank added a ton to that. It was wrong.

We were never the problem. Dodd Frank could have been a decent law. But republicans were blocked out of amending the laws. I fault Trump today for not changing this and fixing Dodd Frank.

 

As part of the base, I took it as the President would drain the swamp getting the govt out of almost every aspect of our lives so we could take care of ourselves. No real conservative believes anyone should take care of them, you know the personal responsibility thingy. As for Hildi's finest moment when exactly was that?