How is it possible that Trump got elected?

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    Trump is President because the majority of Americans in the far right states voted for him.
     
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    Whoa! Wait, we were having a pleasant conversation. My post that you quoted was directed at someone else, not you.

    Geez, is all this just because I like Ike? You have me confused.
     
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    I said, "Right, and you defend Moore because what you are suggesting is impossible. The election is Dec. 12. A trial to determine Moore's guilt or innocence is not possible.

    "So, the rest of us rely on our judgment rather than a bar too high like you. We go by the original statement put out by the White House before Trump changed his mind. We go by what Trump's daughter said about Moore. We go by what multiple Republican Senators have said about Moore and the fact that, if he wins, they will want to unseat him.

    "But not you. You want Moore to stay in the race and win, a pedophile in the Senate. Geez! Trumpians are something."

    Tell me something. Specifically, explain how I embarrassed myself.

    Or, did I embarrass you?
     
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    Seth, we have had our squabbles, but an excellent post. I can't make heads or tails out of it, but that is my bad. That's why I have an accountant. Again, excellent post.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Shapiro has long been brilliant about politics. I watched him as a teen and he was then awesome.
     
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    Just trying to get my message across. If i spend 30 minutes to an hour or more researching and writing an article, I want to make sure people see it.
     
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    You remind me of the landlubber that calls an Aircraft Carrier a boat. It is a ship.

    Moore can't possibly be a pedophile. The 14 year old was at the time deemed lawful to marry. Alabama won't allow under 14 year olds to marry.

    As too you pronouncing guilt due to others, shows you do not have a very stable mind. I would virtually be positive were he a Democrat, he would then get the pass that Moore is entitled to.
     
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    :banana::roflol::rock_slayer::roll:
     
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    Trump got really lucky. A tsunami of events propelled him into the White House courtesy of non-college educated white blue collar workers, out-of-work miners, disheartened farmers, and white women along with anarchists (drain the swamp types) and white supremacists.

    The Democrats chose the worst candidate possible.

    Comey re-opened the private server investigation eleven days before Election Day.

    Voter apathy because both candidates were terrible. 90 million Americans stayed home on Election Day.

    Trump had the help of the Russians. Putin wanted a moron to win the Oval Office.

    Trump had the help of WikiLeaks. They were responsible for a four-month daily barrage of news leaks designed to destroy the Clinton campaign.

    David Duke could have been nominated by the Republicans and he would have won given these circumstances.
     
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    Moore can't possibly be a pedophile. The 14 year old was at the time deemed lawful to marry. Alabama won't allow under 14 year olds to marry.
    The key word defining what attracts a pedophile is "prepubescent"

    Whether Moore is guilty or not, a 14 year old girl is not prepubescent ... your goal might be to insult or marginalize Moore, but calling him a pedophile is morally wrong.
     
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    Name me a few candidates other than Hillary who could have beaten Trump!

    Also, you reach for all of these sad excuses to forgive Hillary and to deny Trump.
    Comey could never have opened anything if Hillary were't so corrupt
    Voter apathy is fake news -about 40% of voting age Americans stay home every presidential election
    Trump had no help from the Russians - the ads the Russians ran were pro-Hillary - the "collusion" accusations are fake news
    And here we go with the old "it's all wikileaks fault" excuse. All that wikileaks did was release emails from Hillary and the DNC exposing them for the election fixing, lying frauds that they are.
    They just can't make an anti-Republican screed without a mention of that right wing racist David Duke - OMG how droll!

    All of this stuff is same-old same-old - is there nothing more entertaining out there than reruns of Archie Bunker and Sanford & Son?
     
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    I don't know but could it have something to do with his opponent? That would then make it a question of did he really win or is Hitlerly a loser? So many Hitlerly zombies say that Trump didn't win so who am I to argue with those that cling to Hitlerly's every word.
     
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    I bow to the expert on pedophiles. :rock_slayer:
     
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    Hillary blames Comey, not the Russians. Course she will use any excuse so has also latched onto the Russians did it. i maintain Obama had this excuse lined up months prior to the election and is at fault if the Russians actually managed to out think and outwit the Democrats.
     
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    Look, why not simply admit you are wrong?
     
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    True conservatives who know the history of taxes and revenues believe they will INCREASE revenues as has happened in the past. But even if we take the $1.4 trillion the Democrats were all talking about over the weekend that is over TEN YEARS. The Democrats managed a ONE YEAR $1.4 trillion increase in 2009. Then they kept it over $1 trillion for the next three years. So whose policy should we lean towards?
     
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    You are overlooking the fact that Obama inherited the Great Recession, the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, along with two very long wars we were losing combined with Bush's tax cuts.

    That's all I will say on the subject. This thread is about our current President, not the one we had over ten months ago.
     
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    I assume you mean against their consent. Until and unless such a charge is proven, it remains a slander.
     
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    I am so sick of a defense of Obama blaming the brief recession on Bush. Bush took action he could lawfully take to not have any recession. He funded the Auto Industry to the tune of 17.4 Billion dollars prior to Obama swearing in.

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/john...s-george-w-bush-who-bailed-out-the-automakers
    The banks really did not need capital and told then Sec. Henry Paulson they wanted no cash. But he coerced the banks and they borrowed money.

    Anyway by the time Obama showed up, the fire had been put out by GW Bush. That is why the recession was so short lived.
     
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    Since you mentioned Obama....
    Reagan inherited a mess - double digit inflation, double digit interest rates and double digit unemployment rates - and he had the economy running really well after about 2 years in office.

    Do you think Obama might have been at least partially at fault for an economy that is just now recovering after 10 years in the doldrums?
     
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    I remember my first house loan interest rate was 13% due to that.
     
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    And I did not agree with Bush on that and then Obama trumped him in spades with his takeover of GM and Chrysler and screwing the bondholders and stockholders to giver millions to the unions. And then he ended up selling Chrysler to a foreign company.
     
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    Senator Obama and his fellow Democrats took the congress and majority control of the government and it's fiscal and budgetary policy a year before the recession started. The deficit was a mere $161B as tax revenues had hit RECORD INCREASES under the Bush tax rates.
     

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