Prove to me how Islam is not the most violent religion

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  1. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but Mussolini had the backing of the Italian Church when he invaded France. Some Protestants called themselves "Storm Troopers for Jesus Christ" in their support of Hitler's wars.
     
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    Islam began as a violent religion, it was not distorted to a violent purpose, it was founded on violence. Christianity began in the face of violence as an alternative.
     
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    Laws are most definitely passed in Christian countries to enforce Christian morality the same as Sharia law enforces Muslim morality.

    I brought up a glaring example: the overwhelming Christian nations of Latin America imprisoning women for having miscarriages.
     
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  4. Daniel Light

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    Love how some conservatives bang their fists and declare the US a nation founded on Christian beliefs ... then suddenly run from it when it doesn't fit their bull crap hyperbolic rants.
     
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    the reason Christians and Muslims are the biggest religions today is both believed in the "Convert or Kill" method in the past
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So CURRENT sharia laws where people can be executed for talking smack about mohammad right now in 2019 and all you can say is "bbbbut hitler and moussilini"? Man that is reaching...so far nobody has proven me wrong
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Martin Luther on the Jews,

    In the treatise, Martin Luther describes Jews as a "base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth".[6] Luther wrote that they are "full of the devil's feces ... which they wallow in like swine",[7] and the synagogue is an "incorrigible whore and an evil slut".[8]

    In the first ten sections of the treatise, Luther expounds, at considerable length, upon his views concerning Jews and Judaism and how these compare to Protestants and Protestant Christianity. Following the exposition, Section XI of the treatise advises Protestants to carry out seven remedial actions. These are

    1. to burn down Jewish synagogues and schools and warn people against them;
    2. to refuse to let Jews own houses among Christians;
    3. for Jewish religious writings to be taken away;
    4. for rabbis to be forbidden to preach;
    5. to offer no protection to Jews on highways;
    6. for usury to be prohibited and for all silver and gold to be removed, put aside for safekeeping, and given back to Jews who truly convert; and
    to give young, strong Jews flail, axe, spade, and spindle, and let them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow.[9] .

    The prevailing scholarly view since the Second World War is that the treatise exercised a major and persistent influence on Germany's attitude toward its Jewish citizens in the centuries between the Reformation and the Holocaust.[23][24][25]Four hundred years after it was written, the Nazis displayed On the Jews and Their Lies during Nuremberg rallies, and the city of Nuremberg presented a first edition to Julius Streicher, editor of the Nazi newspaper Der Stürmer, the newspaper describing it, on Streicher's first encounter with the treatise in 1937, as the most radically antisemitic tract ever published
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies
     
  8. Daniel Light

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    But Christianity did absolutely nothing to reduce the violence in countries where it was adopted. A thousand years of non-stop wars in Christian Europe, culminating in the extreme violence of WWI and WW II are prime examples of that.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong! Ine of those still hbelieves in convert or kill and its in the koran
     
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    Islam is not a religion, it's a political death cult.
     
  11. Daniel Light

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    Dude - YOU were the one who stipulated that the cut off was 1900. Can't help it if you screwed up your own OP.
     
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    Did you or did you not set the limit at post-1900 in the OP? Now you want to change goalposts? Have you really failed this hard this quickly?
     
  13. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well guys keep going if you want but my work is done here. I bet my friend 500 bucks that none of you self proclaimed political experts would be able to prove me wrong. He has read through the replies and agrees you all failed so hes on the way to the ATM machine as we speak.
    How should i spend it?
     
  14. Daniel Light

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    Really? Today, there are about 1.1 BILLION Muslims. How many attacked you today? Yesterday? There are certain disciplines of Muslim that are violent - not trying to pretend otherwise ... but there have been violent Christians in the past as well.
     
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    I did not say they still believe in convert or kill, but as late at the English coming to convert the Indians they did

    I do think some Christians would prefer to convert or kill Muslims today and some Muslims would prefer to convert or kill Christians... but I think those numbers are small

    there are some Muslims and some Christians that want to make this a RELIGIOUS WAR
     
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    Nice white flag, dude. Your imaginary "friend" must be a moron.
     
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  17. Questerr

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    Are you going to mention to your friend that you just blatantly tried to change the goalposts after setting the limit in the OP to post-1900?
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, you have not made any kind of definition in your statement, everyone has proved you wrong in one way or another, you simply say "I did not mean that way". If you want to define how you believe Islam is the most violent religion then you can start talking about proof.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would suggest you spend the $500 on books explaining debating for you and your friend!
     
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    Even if true, it certainly is not the most violent death cult either!
     
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    It is a religion by every applicable definition of the word religion.
     
  22. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i wont be spending the money after all...i handed him back the wad of 25 20 dollar bills and told him to get me a beer instead. Damn im such a push over sometimes. Id be 500 bucks richer if it werent for my humble Christian values :(
     
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    Lol...And why would anyone want to argue with your brain fart?
     
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    Apparently Christian values include bearing false witness.

    Then again, “Lying for Jesus” is a thing.
     
  25. Daniel Light

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    Christ just threw up in his mouth a little ...
     

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