Transgender boy wins girls' state wrestling title for second time

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  1. Tererun

    Tererun Well-Known Member

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    Actually, he seems to be competing just fine according to what Texas has decided. Testosterone treatments for trans men are not steroids >>>MOD EDIT Flamebait Removed<<< . If you do not like it then perhaps Texas should allow him to wrestle with the boys. That would be in the realm of fairness as testosterone treatments are just there to give a person the same testosterone levels as another man, not enhanced levels.

    Complain all you like but trans athletes and people are not going away because you make life difficult.
     
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    Seems you would be incorrect due to the fact Texas won't classify him as male yet seems to allow him to compete in the female division.
     
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    reallybigjohnson Banned

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    More BS. If Mack was only allowed to wrestle in the girls division then he should have suspended his treatment until wrestling was over. He put himself first and blatantly cheated to win. He is a worthless sack of ****.
     
  4. Tererun

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    In order to wrestle he is only offered women as opponents. Not his choice and not his fault. He wants to do it so he is doing it. They thought he would cave in but he isn't. They should let him compete with the boys as they would be more appropriate, but Texas is messed up.
     
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    reallybigjohnson Banned

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    He wasn't competing against men and in fact you do see big differences in male to female and vice versa. All he had to do was suspend his treatments and no one would be complaining. He chose to cheat.

    https://www.shape.com/lifestyle/min...ffect-transgender-athletes-sports-performance

    "The reverse transition of female to male (FTM) receives less of the athletic focus, but it's worth noting that, yes, trans men dotypically feel the opposite effects, though a bit sooner because testosterone is so potent. "It can take years to develop the body you want under normal circumstances, but testosterone makes it happen very quickly," Beil explains. "It changes your strength and speed and ability to respond to exercise." Yep, it's pretty awesome to be male when you're aiming for great biceps and six-pack abs"
     
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    You do not like him because he is trans and not hiding. That is why you feel he is a POS. Please don't pretend you care about rules because you do not.
     
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    reallybigjohnson Banned

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    And if he was really interested in a fair contest all he had to do was stop his treatment while he wrestled.
     
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    He is not cheating. He is taking prescribed medication. Texas should have him in the boys division where he belongs. Texas does not claim he is cheating, so there for he is not. He is participating within some very screwed up rules. That is not cheating. That is following screwed up rules.
     
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    Tell me one good reason why he couldn't have stopped the treatments while he wrestled? All you have is your default whiny bitchy "you just hate trans people" bullshit response. You keep avoiding the question because you have no answer. Until Texas changes their law there was nothing..........nothing at all stopping him from temporarily suspending his treatments while he wrestled girls. He went in cheating and he knew it and was such a cowardly little **** that he couldn't face the girls on even terms.
     
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    Or he could wrestle in the boys division and all would be fair. You are being deliberately misleading and lying.
     
  11. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tell that to Chelsea, the girl she beat. It might matter to some selection board in Chelsea's future. Mack has no right nor does anyone else.

    You are suggesting Chelsea pay for OUR actions. Insane.
     
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    Texas needing to change their laws once again has no bearing on his actions. He chose to keep taking the treatments knowing full well that he would have an unfair advantage.

    Literally showed up on a quick google. Athletes have and do suspend treatments to conform to rules. There is no reason Mack couldn't have done the same.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health...r-postpones-hormone-treatment-to-keep-playing
     
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    Because those treatments are what he needs to have his male body. He does not need to suspend being a man because Texas is playing a stupid game. Sorry, but that is your problem.
     
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    Yeah, it sucks for Chelsea

    She got screwed out of being a 2-Time state champion, because a drugged-out testosterone case had an unfair advantage.

    Uber-bummer for Chelsea.:smfh:
     
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    This transgender issue is new enough to the culture that no one really knows how to deal with it. I imagine if she competed with boys, she'd always lose because even with the drugs she is taking, she isn't as strong as boys. Maybe she should just decide not to be an athelete, or not a competitive one. Find other pursuits. Life is not fair for any of us.
     
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    Maybe a transgender sporting association, they can compete against each other
     
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    Possible.
     
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    I also think people shouldn't be allowed to change their bodies until they are 18, not even normal plastic surgery. I guess if a girl has a disfiguring nose, that would be okay with me, to change that as girls get so much negative attention if they aren't good looking, but doing other things like breast implants and such should be something that is done after you are an adult. Kids should not be able to go transgender physically until they are 18. I would want my child to think about these things as an adult before committing to permanent changes in his or her body.

    Back in the old days, just getting your ears pierced was a big issue.
     
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    I'd be okay with breast reductions. In fact I'd prefer it that way!
     
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    Now yer talkin'. :salute:
     
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    What a disgrace, how could this kid even feel good about this win.
     
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    How do the drug cheats feel good about their wins. It's not about whether you win or lose that counts, it's that you WIN!
     
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    I agree, but how does a boy feel good about beating girls.
     
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    I don't think he does.
     

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