Turkey Closed Straits - Russia Blockaded - Has World War III Begun?

That should make Ukraine and other nations real happy.
Russia could easily, de-mine it.
Russian Gun Boat Diplomacy is bigger than Turkey and I doubt NATO will stand up militarily for Turkey.
Sort of like Egypt / Nasser closing el Sharm el Sheikh straits blockading the Israeli port of Eilat.
Look how well that worked out for Egypt. Turkey the same.
To save face although they don't deserve it, NATO will back door Turkey to back down and Russia to promise not to violate Turkish air space
Tell me it ain't so - and Why of course.

 

To hopefully remove putin the dog from this planet.

I find it hilarious that the russian/putin boot lickers apologize for putin's claims about "protecting russian ethnic people in Ukraine and Crimea," which is obviously manufactured BS, but then get angry about Erdo trying to stop russia from bombing Turkmen along the Turkish border. Are only russians allowed to protect their own?

Had putin the dog not sent troops thousands of miles away into syria - where no one there voted for such a move - and then started bombing groups other than ISIS, this conflict would not have started. But we all know how russia's economy is collapsing, and like all dictatorial filth, putin needs a foreign enemy to redirect the russian people's attention to.

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Thank you, someone smart with the ability to think for themselves gets it. Excellent post, outstanding.

 

Yeah there is still nothing on this of Turkey blockading the Russians in. All I get is that now Turkey made mirror like allegations of what Putin said Turkey does with Daesh. Then it was all about the Russian/Turkish pipeline.




Immediately after the speech Russia's energy minister Alexander Novak announced the suspension of talks between Ankara and Moscow over the major TurkStream pipeline project.

Negotiations over the project to pipe Russian gas to Turkey under the Black Sea have been floundering since Moscow launched air strikes in Syria in late September in support of the regime of President Bashar al-Assad, which Ankara fiercely opposes.

But the official announcement of the break-off in the talks dealt another blow to floundering Russian-Turkish ties, as Putin lamented the damage to a relationship that he has spent years nurturing.

"Only Allah, most likely, knows why they did this. And evidently Allah decided to punish the ruling clique in Turkey by depriving them of their intelligence and reason," he said.....snip~

http://news.yahoo.com/putin-says-russia-not-forget-turkish-downing-warplane-093618497.html

 

You should anticipate the putin boot lickers to claim the mossad, purple martians, or the CIA shot it down. putin the dog cannot be guilty of anything, he is the Second Coming, the Great Man (especially when he rides a horse without a shirt), and is the Master of All Humans.

 

Is there someone at Ankara who could carry a message from EU to Erdogan?

The message is simple, it's a banal question ...

Erdogan, can we trust you?

This said, you know what? In case Russia and Turkey will have to "solve" their problems using old good methods ... before the war will begin ... I buy the ticket and popcorn to enjoy the show!

P.S. our good friend Vladimir Vladimirovic is going to win this match.

 

there is not one single mainstream media site that verifies any of this.

BBC, Al Jazeera, CNN, none of them.

which means its not true

 

I second this. Putin didn't even bring it up in his state of the union adress today.

 

Sounds to me like you don't know the difference between Turkey and Nato and have your own agenda.

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Of course. Its fabricated manure.

 

if Turkey really did shut down the Straits to Turkish traffic, Putin would be yelling and screaming about this as an act of war.

and yet, nothing from Putin or his Foreign Minister.

so.......that means it has not happened

 

Whats the latest on this Jeannettte....

 

Yep. Rt didn't have a report about this neither. I consider rt to be a credible news source. More credible than CNN or Fox at least.

 

I don't know. Turkey might have allowed the container ships to pass through, or they might still be sitting there. If so it is serious. What I don't believe though is that Russia deployed 150,000 troops in Syria, since it would have to go through the Duma first and I haven't come across anything on it.

As for the seven thousand Russian troops in Armenia, that might be true. I know Russia deployed some serious equipment there this week.

Things are heating up in more ways than one. Washington asked Erdogan to close the border, and instead of sending troops he sent tanks. What can tanks be used for other than an invasion?

As for Erdogan's complaints about the Turkomans being bombed, they are not Syrians. They are Turks from Turkmenistan, and they are the terrorists Putin's afraid will go back to the Central Asian States and cause problems.

 

There might be negotiations going on...or law suits. Each day that a ship is delayed, it costs the owner tens of thousands of dollars. It's not though just the Russian ships, it's all the container ships with the exception of the Turkish ones.

 

Turkey should have got on the phone, and got in touch with Putin, before shooting a Russia bomber out of the skies. Russia has been going after the supply chain of oil that goes to turkey by oil transport, from isis, and is then helped by turkey to get the oil to port. Obviously high officials in turkey were making money from this allowing isis to ship their oil through turkey. We never sent after cutting that income flow off to isis but Russia, being smarter here than the embiciles in DC went after the financing.

There are also some talk going around according to former Reagan admin official, that Russia has a new weapon that literally shuts down war theater communication of the us and Israel and have use it once already, which basically defangs the US military. Supposedly Russia not being able to keep up with trillions of dollars on war machines like the US, have invested their resources into better missile tech and perhaps a new jamming weapon that can turn the US in a paper tiger.

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There is no fear from container ships...
that makes it illegal.

 

Global Research? You're kidding me.. That's a lousy source.

BTW.. Putin is an ass.. He bombed Kurdish oil trucks. Like you, Trump took Putin's claim as gospel and damned Turkey.

Iraqi Kurds refute Russia’s claims on Turkey-Daesh oil trade, say tankers belong to KRG

http://www.dailysabah.com/diplomacy...key-daesh-oil-trade-say-tankers-belong-to-krg

 

I came across this on:

http://rbth.com/international/2015/...ng-pasage-of-rusian-ships-in-black-sea_546415

Turkey is creating obstacles for Russian ships without technically violating the right of free passage through the Turkish Straits, the online newspaper Vzglyad reports.

According to an online vessel tracking system, Russian ships moved in zigzags and circles on Nov. 29, waiting for hours for permission to enter the Bosphorus.

For instance, the Bratsk waited for permission from 10.00 to 19.00, and the Volgobalt from 3.00 to 17.00. However, as stated by the Ukrainian Center for Transport Policies, vessels belonging to the other countries passed through the straits without a delay on that day.

The Haberler.com news website reports that the transport ship Yauza was met by a Turkish submarine as it was passing through the Dardanelles on the morning of Nov. 30.​

 

OK thanks for that...Id believe you before I believed Margot.....

 

The U.S. is behind most of the misery on this planet.

 

I believe that Russia may have the rights to go back at Turkey if they please. However, it would be a lot better if Putin and company decided to ease off and let it be for a while. As of now, we have enough trouble with ISIS in the world. Everyone does. We need to turn towards figuring that out before we get put in another confliction

 

It's open to interpretation. The way I see it is that the USA gave the green light to Saddam to enter Kuwait. The war was unnecessary. Saddam was ready to leave. The U.S establishment fooled the whole world.

This lad has done an extensive research on the subject.

The 1991 Gulf Massacre

by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed

Part One: The Historical & Strategic Context of Western Terrorism in The Gulf

IV. Protecting Order in the Gulf

IV.I The Domestic Scene in the U.S.


http://www.voltairenet.org/article162816.html

 

Glaspie Memo Vindicates Her, Shows Saddam’s Thinking

"The cable’s text supports Glaspie’s accounts of the meeting and exonerates her from the charges by her political enemies in the US Congress that she inadvertently gave Saddam a green light to invade Kuwait."

And even if this proof didn't exist the day after the invasion which occurred a week later the UNSC demanded Iraq leave and the US began airlifting troops. Hardly the action of somebody who gave a 'green light.'

 

Strait is closed to Russian ships but Putin isn't making a stink about it at the UN?

I call BS

 

Me too. Seems only Infowars and other like minded nutbar sites have the scoop which says a lot.

 

It wasn't always. At one time it was looked upon as the world's saviour. It was Elias Kazan's 'America, America'.

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