Why did Al Qaeda foolishly attack us on 9-11?

that's the same things as calling Israel and their supporters Satan. Why do they hate Israel again? Religion? Racism? Displacement of the Palestinians? I' buy a legitimate gripe with displacing the Palestinians but;it seems no government truly cares for the Palestinians if all they will do for them is kill other people.

 

Of course his videos state precisely the opposite, but you are one of those 'nothing is as it seems' sort of gals.

 

For al Qaeda as a whole, not just AQI.

Of course, al Qaeda did move into Iraq. It is what happened to AQ by 2007-8, not the summer of 2003, that is relevant and important to their fortune (or lack thereof) today.

 

In the only video that can be authenticated immediately after 9-11, OBL denied any knowledge of 9-11.

All the videos that came after were either very fuzzy or voice overs against a photo.. and most were delivered to RitA Katz.

When a photo of OBL is tricked out in the silks of a Shia Mullah... MOST would question authenticity.

 

Nah, they followed us to Iraq. Most of Afghanistans early successes in 03 and 04 were due to all the foreign fighters in Afghanistan making a b-line for Iraq. Iraq was the subject of their dispute all along. Afghanistan was merely a base from which they operated.

 

Are you joking.. Iraq has a Shia majority.. and always will have a Shia majority.

 

Of course, anything that that doesnt fit with your preconceived views is written off as a fabrication. Most alll were delivered to Al jezzera

 

Europe doesn't have 'a' government. Europe isn't a country.

'When America sneezes the world catches cold'.

 

Bin Laden not only knew about the plot in advance, he was involved with its organization and financing from the start, and that included the selection of Mohamed Atta as the lead hijacker.

 

That's just it ..I am very restrained about "preconceived views"...

Most everyone of OBL's "revelations" were deleivered thru SITE and Rita Katz.. and most were photos of him dressed as a Shia Mullah... with voice overs. I have no doubt that OBL was a bad actor and meant us harm... I just don't see ANY evidence that he orchestrated 9-11.

 

Make no mistake: Osama bin Laden's attack was motivated by his hatred of Israel:

All of you idiot rednecks on this forum who think "bin Laden hates our freedom, hates capitalism, hates Christianity, they're all just a bunch of angry Muslims", may God have mercy on your soul. May you rise from your ignorance. Not for your sake, but for mine. You're arrogance is bringing this country down, and your mob mentality is dangering my security (threats of terrorist attacks) and my property (inflation thru deficit spending thru militarism). But don't take my word for it:

Do you think that 9/11 should have changed everything? If so, the terrorist have won. We have grandma being felt up by the TSA, we are trillions in debt, and now congress is spying on us. Osama couldn't have asked for a better outcome: the fear that he has created is destroying our economy, our freedom, and and our international strength.

 

Except the main ones where he admitted involvement. One was discovered by the CIA and released to news outlets, the other delivered to Al Jezeera. Reality is but a minior inconvenience to you.

 

And all the Alqaeda fighters in Iraq were exclusively Sunni. Your point? Or is my mistake in presuming you have one?

 

He denied involvement.. Look it up and watch or read the transcripts.

 

I suspect that the plot succeeded beyond the wildest dreams of Mohammed Atta..

 

Iraq was Bin Ladens focus. Citing Israel is just more effective in garnering widespread support.

 

The plot to attack the US was a success. The goal of their attack has been a miserable failure.

We had 15,000 troops in the "lands of Islam" when that was written. 9/11 brought them 100s of 1000s of additional US troops.

 

He denied involvement before the video of him laughing about it was discovered. Then he had no choice but to admit it and has done so ever since.

 

Before 9/11, only a small number of people had really heard of Al-Qaeda, even in the Muslim world. The Islamist concept was more widespread but except in a couple of countries there was little support for the Islamist viewpoint.

After 9/11, Al-Qaeda gradually got its teeth kicked in and Osama himself eventually was killed (martyred). In the interim a fair number of Al-Qaeda's objectives have been achieved. The invasion of Iraq (supposedly to combat terror) gave the Islamists the perfect recruiting tool, while the destruction of the WTC appealed to the latent anti-Western sentiment in much of the Muslim population.

Copycat groups have popped up all over the globe (some of whom call themselves Al-Qaeda), and the Taliban itself created another Taliban to be active in Pakistan. Islamist attacks are definitely up over the past decade (leaving out the spike in such attacks in Iraq during the worst years of the occupation) and their numbers and influence are growing (among Muslims).

A decade after the 9/11 attacks, I would say America itself is safer but that the Islamists are stronger.

 

WE have lost 4,000 American soldiers and crippled or traumatize another 35,000..

We have spent a trillion borrowed dollars and curtailed American freedoms..

IMO that doesn't mean we have won.. It means we are reactive... Like the Zionists have been for nearly 100 years. Doesn't is p*ss you off to operate from a positition of fear?

 

WOW!
"towel-headed Muslim debris"
"towel-headed-pukes"

Here is WHY OBL did what he did.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver

and here is his goal:
http://articles.cnn.com/2004-11-01/world/binladen.tape_1_al-jazeera-qaeda-bin?_s=PM:WORLD

His reasons for attacking were...from an Arab point of view...probably a little extreme but never the less...at that time they were probably the sentiments of many many Arab people.

His goal...on the other hand...was genius.
And its still working to this day.

So...smarty-pants...how does it feel to be out-witted by a bunch of "towel-headed-pukes"?

 

And then there is the real world where support for Al Qaeda in Muslim countries had peaked following 9/11, and has steadily declined ever since. Precisely the opposite of what you have imagined.

 

Such is the price of freedom. Before you start (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about it, we can count our blessings that the Arabs, and especially the jihadists, are a bunch of ignorant and impatient fools. Sure they nailed us that day. We were napping, and in their haste, that was the best they could do. Had they planned a bit better, and been a bit more patient, they could have killed 100K that day. As Yamamoto knew so well 70 years ago with the success of Pearl Harbor, they awoke a sleeping giant once again. And its been one big can of whoop-ass on their **********s ever since.

Actually, we are operating from a position of strength. That fear is always a component of apprehension and its resulting preparation, what do you suggest ? Is it not a component of hard work, and hoping to simply provide for one's family, out of fear of what happens when one becomes liberal and relies on nanny state

OBTW, my "fear" is that we don't get the liberals out of the driver's seat soon enough, and that we suffer additional unnecessary damage because of it.

 

Thanks for your views, skeptic-f.

What makes you think the Islamists are stronger?

I see them as much weaker.

Peace and democracy are breaking out in Eqypt, Lybia and Syria.

Al-Qaeda hates democracy. It runs contrary to their views of an Islamic caliphate.

 

Actually.. AQ fragmented and took up positions in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen.. and began recruiting domestic nutjobs.