Why Gun Control is doomed to fail......

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  1. barefoot2626

    barefoot2626 Well-Known Member

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    My neighbor's child was shot dead through a door of another neighbor
    who thought he was someone trying to steal his drugs.

    I can still hear her screams as he died before the ambulance arrived.

    And as his blood spread on the porch and spilled down the front steps.

    He was 15, the nicest kid you'd ever meet. He went to the neighbor because
    he thought the neighbor had some weights to go fishing and the neighbor was
    high.

    In the real universe.

    I leave your expertise with backsides to you, shug.
     
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    Nope.
     
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    And since then, you've let your emotions run roughshod over any ability you may have had to reason.
    Why do you believe rational, reasonable people are swayed by fallacious appeals to emotion?
     
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    I see you refuse to accept the truth that the federal government does indeed track firearms deaths.

    Again: websites available upon request -- the CDC website is searchable, for all causes of death - including those related to firearms - since 1999.
     
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    I don't look to others to determine my moral behavior.

    My conscience is clear.
     
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    I see you refuse to accept the US Congress refused to fund the CDC
    to research firearm deaths.
     
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    And thus, you move the goalpost. I accept your concession if the point.
    :clap:
     
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    My question, below, directly relates to your constant bleating about selling firearms to felons.
    If you cannot describe when it is illegal to sell a firearm to felons, you, necessarily, argue from ignorance.
    So...
    Under what circumstances is it legal to sell a firearm to a felon?
     
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    Hey, the loss of an innocent life is tragic... but let's look at the REAL UNIVERSE.

    Point A: the individual who shot him was a drug addict and criminal. Laws did not prevent him from having his drugs anymore than a law would prevent him from having a gun.

    Point B: If you know someone who uses drugs to the point of paranoia and irrationality DON'T GO NEAR HIM.
     
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    You mean like when I say you should not be allowed to sell firearms to strangers?

    It seems that 90 percent of Americans have the same emotions.
     
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    Registration is one part of a three-part plan, penned in 1976, by what is now the Brady Campaign, to ban handguns in the US. It is a strategy that has been embraced by the left.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_CampaignBrady_Campaign

    No matter what the left says about "reasonable", "common sense", gun control laws, they have declared and followed a prescribed strategy, one where the use deception, lies, and propaganda is rationalized by the end they achieve. And, gun control is only one objective in their overall goal of undermining the Constitution and creating a leftist plutocracy with power over every aspect of the lives of subjects. They must be resisted at every step.
     
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    Neither do I. I pursue a responsible and moral lifestyle, and I will not accept someone throwing arbitrary and authoritarian restrictions upon my ability to live it.

    So is mine. I actually put on the uniform and walked the streets and actively sought to protect my country and community from violence. What have you done?
     
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    The real universe where the mother was cradling a dead child
    on the porch, something that happens thousands of times a
    year while people like yourself that that just happens?

    And it is real inconvenient for you to be forced to go through
    a background check when buying and selling firearms?
     
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    I would agree in many situations, but there are serial perpetrators of violence on others that need to be dealt with... Brand them, I say so they are visible to all.
     
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    My question, below, directly relates to your constant bleating about selling firearms to felons.
    If you cannot describe when it is illegal to sell a firearm to felons, you, necessarily, argue from ignorance.
    So...
    Under what circumstances is it legal to sell a firearm to a felon?

    It appears you do not understand the argumentum ad populum fallacy.
    This will help:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
     
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    You are making things up.
     
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    You are under the impression that I should be forced to answer your straw men.

    I am not and I shan't.
     
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    It appears you do not understand the argumentum ad passiones fallacy.
    This will help:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion
     
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    The CDC was stripped of funding to research firearms issues after it was caught publishing cooked statistics and blatantly false propaganda regarding the issue to push an agenda. The Congressional Committee that stripped them of their funding was a bipartisan one.
     
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    And then there are those who say they are aware of are serial perpetrators of violence
    but they are all to happy to sell them firearms.
     
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    Just as I thought - you do not know when it is illegal to sell a firearm to a felon.
    Thus, your argue from ignorance.
     
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    The internet is full of heroes.

    PS: people who walk the street in uniforms are paid well to do so.
     
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    The argument went from "tracked" to "investigated" to "research".
    That right -- the goalpost moved twice.
     
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    What is it?

    That Congress blocked their funding or they didn't block their funding?

    I know the answer.

    PS: every Congressional Committee since 1803 has been bipartisan.

    PPS: I have never suggested that Congress wasn't part of the problem.

    Oh right . . . I said exactly the opposite.
     
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    Spare me the self-righteous hyperbole. Again, the death of a 15 year old is tragic, but the exercise of simple common sense would have prevented his death.

    I'm perfectly fine with point of sale background checks by firearms dealers. I also believe in someone doing their due diligence and documenting to whom they sell a firearm in a private sale. Our Constitution specifically protects our right to arms and requiring someone to jump through hoops to exercise a Constitutional right is wrong; just as wrong as expecting someone to pay a poll tax to vote or denying them their right to free speech, or violations of any other Constitutional right.
     
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